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I have the SUS medium strings on my short scale Lowden in DADGAD. Sound good to me. I play with fingers and don't use an excessive amount of pressure (for what that's worth).
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Regarding pricing, a friend gave me a set for free. When I dropped off my Santa Cruz D for work at the factory, Carolyn took pity on me and gave me two for the price of one. That is an average of $6 per set.
Just lucky I guess. The first set has been on my OM for six months. Still sound great.
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"Thanks for this question - it's an important one. The good news is that yes, our strings will "work" for altered tunings (i.e., open D and G tunings, etc.), but the bad news is that they won't work as well as a fully compensated set will for that specific tuning. Here's what happens: we've gone through great efforts to balance the torque loads across the string set(s) for a conventional EBGDAE tuning. When you retune to an altered tuning, and either raise or lower the pitch of a string or strings, the change in pitch changes that string's tension(s) which upsets the apple cart and throws the set's compensated torque loads out the window. For optimum string-to-string balance, sustain, and feel, the only real solution is to change those strings you are re-tuning, to gauges that properly compensate the torque load of the set for that tuning. Unfortunately, that's a very ugly and clumsy solution." So, I guess they do work, but not as well as standard tuning. The whole thread is here: https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=406222
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I'm experiencing real cognitive dissonance reading this thread. There are posters here whose sigs show tens of thousands of dollars worth of instruments debating whether $18.00 is too much to pay for a set of strings. I have cheap to modestly priced guitars (bought the Lakewood used) and the SC Parabolics are on my list of strings to try.
Is $18. really too much to spend in the pursuit of better tone, playability, longevity, or whatever else you are questing after in your musical pursuit? I live in San Francisco, a darn hamburger costs twenty bucks here!
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My first set of SC strings was free. Richard Hoover gave my wife a free set for me when she toured the factory. Since then, it’s about all I have used. I am a subscriber to their string club. In fact, I should have a pair arriving today.
My only complaint is that they can be squeaky. It probably wouldn’t record well. They last a long time. I’ve got a pair on my Flammang that’s been on there since January. Granted, they’ve been on there about a month too long. But they still sound good. They last longer than nearly anything else I’ve played. The only other string that has been comparable are Wyres and Optima. |
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As far as the cost of a burger in San Fran, I love your city and have visited and worked in it a few times, but the cost of stuff there is ludicrous. I know, it's special but ...
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$18.00 a set is $22.00 cheaper than a set of Martin Titanium ... pity because I really liked the TI's.
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I have always used Martin 12-54 SP PB 7100s on my Martin 000-18. And I have liked those strings just fine. But currently I have a set of the Santa Cruz low tension on the guitar.
At first, I set them to standard tuning. Immediately after stringing, I noted two things. First, they lacked the brightness of the 7100s. The trebles were not dark and muddy - they were clear and even, but the sparkle was not there. Second, I noticed that there was an evenness of responsiveness and tone across the strings. I've continued to recognize that and find it impressive. I don't have a problem with the trebles, but the sparkle remains absent. I play flesh and nail fingerstyle and enjoy how these play and sound. I'm experimenting with tuning down a half step. Not sure I like this as well but it hasn't been long enough. I've also been learning to use a thumb pick - Fred Kelly D2-L-8 (love these!) and like how the bass is strong with a light touch with the Santa Cruz low tension strings, and I am able to keep the strings I touch with fingers and with thumb pick producing similar volume with some care. They have been on my guitar for about a month and I don't notice any change in how good they sound. Regardless, in a week or two, I'll replace them with the Martin 7100s and see what I gain and what I lose. |
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It's hard to tell though because although I keep track of what strings are on what guitar and the dates put on, I don't keep track of the time spent playing on them. I remember playing the heck out of the J-45 back then, and now its in a more normal rotation that depends on tuning and tone. I'm playing the D-55 with D'Addario NB 11s that were strung up back on 5/28/17. They are like brand new because I never play it.
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I replaced Newtone Heritage with SC mid tension strings on a D28. After a week I’m ready to go back to Newtone on that guitar. The Newtone are more “playable” and sound better. SC’s don’t sound bad but are a bit muffled by comparison and tension feels higher.
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Due to creeping decrepitude in both hands, I replaced the SCGC Strings with D’Addario Custom Light on my Cruz and Northwood. The Brondel and Merrill are next.
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Also, as previously posted in another thread: Here's a little interview at NAMM 2018 that explains what they are going for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaICdO8RQZY Here's a longer podcast with Richard Hoover and Rick Barto of Santa Cruz about the strings: https://soundcloud.com/rnewman-1/lun...ith-rick-barto I personally have the low tensions on currently and really really like them. They've been on a couple weeks now and still sounds as fresh as can be.
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I change my SC strings every 6 months whether they need it or not. I find they last that long for me and it makes it easier to keep track. Change batteries in smoke detectors when we re set clocks. That way I can remember all of it and don’t have too much to do at one time. Just received my new strings from Santa Cruz this morning. Happy holidays to me and the guitars.
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FWIW, I bought another set of SCGC Mediums to try on my OM-28A and I believe the tension is much higher than stated - much stiffer than the EJ16s they replaced (~160lbs), and pretty similar to the Martin 12.5s I put on immediately afterward which I believe are rated at 175 lbs. I wonder if the 163 lb figure arrived at was on a shorter than standard scale?
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