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Why would a PA system have a delay effect but not reverb?
There is a Phonic Powerpod 410 PA in the practice space where I play at lunch and I noticed that it has a delay effect but no reverb. I frequently hear people using reverb, I've never heard of anyone using delay.
What is the thinking that supports this feature instead of reverb?
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It is cheaper.
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I get that but doing nothing is cheaper still. Seems like a lot of work to add a useless feature. That's why I assumed I just don't know what that feature is for.
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It's not useless if you play Rock a Billy! Actually I like to use just a touch a of slapback delay to thicken my vocals and often don't use reverb at all in my acoustic act. But I'm always experimenting to get the right sound.
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I don't use reverb on vocals. It takes the presence from your voice, and takes it out of the mix. Plus reverb is a crutch for bad singers live. Some delay is a good thing, it helps double your voice, that is, thickens it.
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As a side note, how awesome is it that I work at a company that has a dedicated music room with a PA (even if low end) and company provided instruments!!!
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I didn't like New Coke either.
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I prefer delay on my vocals. The short delay on my MG06X is terrific. Really saturates the presence of vocals.
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Another thing I didn't consider is that maybe it's just that this particular delay effect sounds bad. Maybe others sound good...
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Actually clear back in the early 80's I didn't use my mixer's reverb at all. I got a rackmount DOD Dual Delay. It was a cool analog delay and just a touch got me the sound I was after. Later I used a digital delay effect on my '89 Yamaha powered mixer. Now I have both a T.C. Helicon Play Acoustic and a Yamaha MG10XU mixer which both have great vocal delays. It's just a cleaner sound to my ears compared to reverb.
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I think the built-in delay feature is actually aimed at those who may need delay, in certain situations, to have the sound reaching particular audience members at the correct time so things don't sound out-of-phase. I know this may also be done with subs. I'm no sound engineer, but I've heard this from a few fellas that really know how to make a PA sound great. I have the QSC K10.2s and they, along with the entire K.2 lineup, have the delay feature.
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So reverb is a crutch but using delay for thickening isn't?
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I guess you could make the argument that it's a crutch, as is a preamp, chorus, tremolo, etc for guitar. EQ and notch filtering? I look at effects as tools to get a sound that's pleasing to an audience. Play in a large hall and there is a natural reverb so is that a "crutch." I don't even try for a totally natural acoustic guitar sound, if that's even possible amplified. I want a pleasant tone that cuts through the mix and compliments the vocals.
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