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And it comes with a Gig Bag.
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Just to be clear, the back and sides of the Martin in question are a lamination of one layer of koa veneer onto one layer of Khaya (African mahogany).
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Yes, but what I mean is if one solid piece of Koa that could have built one Martin guitar with solid Koa back and sides goes into say 10 Martins with laminate Koa back and sides, that seems OK, but if it's say one piece of solid piece of Koa goes into 3 Martins with laminate Koa back and sides, that seems to be a bit of a shame... In my opinion anyway...
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In watching all the Videos I really believe Martin will hit a home run for what this guitar is designed to do.
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This is the best video I found describing the new SC Martin. I did play one at the factory yesterday, and it sounded surprisingly full and balanced with its very low setup.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzWZi872By0
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It's a new direction for Martin for sure. It could cut into the sales of Taylor's X-14 and to a lesser extent Breedlove's proprietary C25 shape. Don't know if that was part of their motivation but I can't help thinking it played into the picture somehow?
It's not your grandfathers Martin but there is something about it that is interesting enough for me to want to play it. Especially if it can be easily setup to handle 12's or 13's?
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However, I still stand by my own points. Laminated veneers allow a company to stretch the investment of a particular type of wood over a much larger range of product than solid. I grew up in the furniture industry, and veneers were always a cost saving way of getting nice looking wood onto a better price point product over solid wood. Flames mahogany veneers over cheap substrate gave the look of upper end without the cost. And while the glue might not add a load of weight, three layers of grain going different directions with glue in between, Ive gotta believe that would and does affect tone. I don’t think my ears deceive me when I play a Taylor 214 vs a 314, and there is noticeable difference in the tone (esp the mids). Just my opinion. I still say that based on build location (Mexico plant), intended market (gigging pros) and price point, Martin used it to hit a price point aimed directly at that market.
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I like Martin's idea.
I think I would have preferred solid Khaya back and sides rather than having a koa veneer for optical purposes. Is Khaya such an ugly looking wood that it wouldn't appeal to the eye?
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Martin isn't slicing up usable solid koa - they're not slicing up anything, a sawmill has made that determination long before it ever arrives at Martin to make it into anything. Making veneer is a very responsible means to maximize the use of some of the rarer/prettier material, so sometimes it's just decided to make veneer to get more use out of something, but a lot of the time it's recovery. You'd also be shocked at how thin we can slice it...the veneer industry uses some weird fractions, but it's common for veneer to be 1/42", especially when it has no need to be durable but purely to used for appearance. |
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https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...sc-13e-natural
I really like the innovation. As explained in the video it's a Road Series guitar. I would like to see it in an upgraded version, solid rosewood or mahogany etc. All in all I think Martin has a winner here.
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It doesn't really tick ALL the boxes for a live guitar with that quacky Fishman pickup, which is just a Sonitone with a soundhole tuner.
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