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Old 10-01-2020, 10:47 AM
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I'm recording a song that is like a basic 50's rock tune. if there's slap back echo on the lead vocal, should the backing vocals have that too, or does it get too muddy. Thanks.
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I'm recording a song that is like a basic 50's rock tune. if there's slap back echo on the lead vocal, should the backing vocals have that too, or does it get too muddy. Thanks.
Completely just me but, I avoid any spacial FX on background Vox
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That's an interesting point of view, Keywest. Thanks.
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I'm recording a song that is like a basic 50's rock tune. if there's slap back echo on the lead vocal, should the backing vocals have that too, or does it get too muddy. Thanks.
There's only one way to find out. Do a mix with it to see if you like it or not.
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Thank RRuskin--didn't like the slap back echo on the backing vocals. It indeed did "muddy the waters."
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Thank RRuskin--didn't like the slap back echo on the backing vocals. It indeed did "muddy the waters."
Now you know.
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Assuming you're doing the slap with a plugin, you may want to try a couple things.

1. Experiment with the low-pass filter. Maybe bringing it way down, below 2K or even into the high hundreds. You may find it gives you a nice depth without as much clutter. Sam Philips might have done this if he had been able to.

2. Dial in a little feedback. Sam did, sometimes. With the LP filter, every repeat will be a tad duller than the previous. Just like tape!
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Nothing wrong with effects on backing vocals, but delay would be best left for the main vocal track alone.
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Some pretty dogmatic responses, but this place can be like that. So not rock 'n' roll.
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I'm recording a song that is like a basic 50's rock tune. if there's slap back echo on the lead vocal, should the backing vocals have that too, or does it get too muddy. Thanks.
Group the vocals to a buss, and apply the slapback echo there. Set the time from between 80 and 120ms, and the feedback, so that there is ONE repeat, with it's volume just under the original note. Then high pass that buss channel starting at about 15K bit to take out the low frequency buildup, and as Brent Hahn say low pass the top end, to get the dark Sun Records sound. I've heard it said that nothing went over 12K on Sam Phillip's Sun Records recordings
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