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Yeah, I get it!
The most compelling bit of philosophy I've ever seen on this topic (and for others) is this: Perfection is the enemy of the good. In other words (for me) -- sure, set some standards, but make them realistic, and (for me) don't end up with a lifetime collection of just a handful of "close to perfect" original creations when you could end up with many dozens or more of good creations. I doubt any of us here are out to win Most Perfect Recording of the Millennium awards. I'll be happy if I can leave some simply good stuff behind.
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recording at home psychology
Fascinating topic..
I find that I can be completely on top of a piece and able to play it with my eyes closed, but the dreaded red light leads to mistakes. In most cases I can get warmed up and be able to get a passable take within 30 mins but if not then the frustration builds and I get past the point of being likely to get a take I am happy with, so rarely last longer than 1h. I am never happy with the take on re-listening as it rarely compares favourably with my reference track (albeit these are always much more accomplished players) and always has some mistakes that appear glaring to me. I have however adopted the “good enough” approach and appreciate that this is a journey. I have also found that the less intrusive I make the process, the more likely I am to get a clean take - so a simple Zoom on the desk in front of me with a Go-pro on the headstock is much easier than 2 mics and a camera with a light in place (despite the results being lower quality) so I end up trading overall recording quality for better playing and less mistakes.
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Hi! As a guitarist who became a session player, red light fever is something that has affected me as well. As a recording engineer/producer I have observed the phenomenon from "the other side of the glass." I've actually written up a short essay about it and you can find that HERE. Bob
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Nice article Bob and lots of interesting responses.
I home record for feedback for myself and to share what I'm working on with friends who have an interest. The repetition part is what has helped me the most with "red light fever". I've also gone through periods where I would hit the record button and forget it. I found this to take a lot of the pressure off and if I was really feeling it, something good would come of it that I could use later. I was playing with a buddy a couple of months ago and started the recorder while he wasn't watching. We nailed the performance and he laughed and said, "Too bad you didn't record that!" Joe Walshed him good that time, I did. |
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That’s a great essay Bob - loved it and totally resonates with me!
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I think some of the frustration comes with constantly stopping and repeating takes. Start recording--mess up--stop--stop the recording--hit delete--get yourself reset--hit record again. Rinse and repeat. That's where digital, at home, can be a blessing. No tape cost, no time limits. Hit "Record" once at the start, and let it roll. Mess up? Just keep going. You can comp it later and use the good part. Mess up? Just keep going, get your groove, and when you finish the piece, play it again. Mess up? Stop and start over, but don't worry about the DAW, just take a breath and start playing again, until you get a take you like. It saves the aggravation of contstantly having to fiddle with your recording gear, which just adds to the your annnoyances. |
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"What ended red light fever for me was repetition and recording myself. Just doing it... over and over." The same is true for performing. I only got back into this a couple of years ago, and it's taken most of that time, playing open mics once or twice a week, to get over it. I'm now much more relaxed on stage, but I still occasionally get distracted and forget where I am in a song.
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That’s as good point - I did think about just letting it roll and avoiding the start stop nature of messing up..
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My editing skills are not to the point where I can cut and paste, so I'm still in the "start over" camp.
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Due to my singing and playing skills, my editing skills developed quickly.
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Mess up? Back up 4 bars, start from there, and keep going until there's another problem. The edits get made during the hourly break. I do the same thing when it's just me and a guitar. |
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I posted a sample of one of my comps in post #30 and you'll see the takes conform to the "play to a mistake, back up a bit and start from there" pattern. |
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I don't do it enough, but there are times when I will record 2 or 3 times a week, then delete everything I recorded. It helps fight the red light jitters.
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