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Old 03-03-2014, 11:10 PM
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Default Sliding an open C Major chord to a D chord

Wasn't sure how to word this question, so here goes...
I was watching youtube videos of the Johnny Cash version of the song "Hurt"
Everybody agreed on all the chords and strumming except for variations of the F chord.
Except justinguitar who showed to slide an open C major chord up 1 step or 2 frets in place of the normal open D major chord.
While it's easy enough I'm not sold on the sound yet, still playing with it.
Anybody else use this chord?
I could not find it with a google search.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:20 PM
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You mean slide plus a barre? Otherwise you just get D and F# notes.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:52 PM
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I use this, but only for a specific song and slide a more full C/G up to D/A. For one song, I slide C7 up to D7, but only strum the inner strings.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:17 AM
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Liz Phair's Divorce Song is played with that, too. She actually plays all six strings when she plays the D. I find myself using that slide up from C to D quite a bit, but without the E strings. I often prefer it to using a normal D chord when transitioning from C to G.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:34 AM
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You mean slide plus a barre? Otherwise you just get D and F# notes.
No, Justin did not barre any strings. He even comments on the sound of the open strings ringing out.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:52 AM
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That's because with that open G and E ringing, it's not just a D chord...you're adding the 4th and 9th giving you a chord that might be called a Dadd4add9 (no 5) or a few other really complex looking names, depending on context.

The half step interval between the F# and G in that chord...that's what might sound a bit odd to your ears...Some folks really like that sound.

Did Justin really suggest to play that chord but give no name or explanation for it? That's terrible.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:00 AM
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I use that sliding chord a lot,played on a 12- string,it's very effective.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:29 AM
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Did Justin really suggest to play that chord but give no name or explanation for it? That's terrible.
Sometimes it's best not to bog beginners down with unnecessary information. It's a chord that can easily substitute for a D major in the context of a song like Hurt. He could say Dadd4add9, but it wouldn't mean anything and wouldn't be retained. An explanation of a C major chord moved up by two frets would be enough for a beginner (if they knew their musical alphabet).
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…While it's easy enough I'm not sold on the sound yet, still playing with it.
…Anybody else use this chord?
Hi rw...

When strumming I often use this C chord when moving up to D:
3-3-2-0-1-0 to 5-5-4-m-3-m …m=mute (Sometimes I play open 1st & 3rd strings instead of muting)

I slide it up 2 frets for a chunky chord as is (actually C-to-D2sus4), or mute the 3rd string with the pad of the middle finger, and 1st string with pad of first finger for a pure and full sounding D/F#. I use it both ways as well as only muting the 3rd string and letting the 1st string ring open for the D.

Really depends on the song/style.

When strumming all 6 strings the 5th of the chord in the bass sounds better than the 3rd.


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Old 03-04-2014, 07:36 AM
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I use that sliding chord a lot,played on a 12- string,it's very effective.
It does sound good on a 12. "Closer to Fine" by the Indigo Girls uses it; she slides a Dadd4add9 down to a C.
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:40 AM
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Sometimes it's best not to bog beginners down with unnecessary information. It's a chord that can easily substitute for a D major in the context of a song like Hurt. He could say Dadd4add9, but it wouldn't mean anything and wouldn't be retained. An explanation of a C major chord moved up by two frets would be enough for a beginner (if they knew their musical alphabet).
Yes, he said it could go by several names but it was not important.
He said it was easier to remember it as a open C sliding.
I really like Justins lessons and would never mean him any disrespect.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:15 AM
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I use that chord for playing Jonathan Edwards' "Emma."
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I don't think I'm talking about the exact same thing, but if you slide open C down two frets, and just strum 2, 3, 4, 5 (6 and 1 are mute) you have a Dadd4.

I'm working on a song that plays G5, followed by this chord, and then resolves with the C major(Hosanna - Paul Baloche). It sounds very nice. I just have some difficulty keeping a steady strum without touching the 1 and 6 string.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:23 AM
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Anybody else use this chord?
Yep. I like the sound of it. I use it with open C sliding up to it and also like it used along with an open A. Even wrote a song around it
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:55 PM
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Yes, he said it could go by several names but it was not important.
He said it was easier to remember it as a open C sliding.
I really like Justins lessons and would never mean him any disrespect.
Ah, that's a bit different. I thought he was just saying it was another way to play a D major chord...

I understand there's no reason to bog a beginner down in too much, but I also refuse to treat my beginner students like idiots. Had this chord come up in a lesson with me, I would have given the chord name, tell the student memorizing the whole fancy name isn't as important as understanding that in this case, it's replacing a regular D major chord, and it's giving us a couple of extra notes which make it sound more "colorful."

If that's confusing, the student should probably stick to Guitar Hero.
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