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A few years ago the retiring conductor of our city's philharmonic orchestra made a very pointed observation. He was asked about the state of music (the asker was assuming he would bemoan the decline clasical trained musicians)
His words were something to the effect that there had been nothing more stifling to music creativity than the rise in predominance of the student/teacher/piano trio in the 19th century.... AND. In contrast, there has been nothing more positive than rise of the teenage boy sitting on the edge of his bed enthusiastically lasting out 'who know's what' bizarre sounds from his electric guitar. There is nothing 'better' about the use of standard notation unless one sees music as some chore to accomplish...that there is a fixed 'getting it right'... as opposed to a creative process. |
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Oh my goodness, really? That was most certainly not my intent.
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[QUOTE=Losov;2109044]The only thing that has "beauty and flavor" is the music itself. QUOTE]
Oh no, notes on a staff have great beauty, at least to me. They are visually beautiful, and they "sing" to me. I hear them in my mind. |
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I have heard the notes on the staff singing, each to each. I do not think that they will sing to me.
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That is not what he meant at all. That is not it, at all
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Just wondering, did any of you learn to read music in school?
I was in elementary school in the 1950s. My school had an excellent music program, not just for the musicians, but required for everyone. Every kid had to learn to read music! Not sure if they all did, but I did and was able to teach myself to play the piano just from my elementary school music classes. Something tells me schools aren't doing that these days. Too bad, it's an important part of cultural literacy. If you read English fluently and someone handed you a great novel written in shorthand I bet it would bug you, for the reasons I mentioned in my original post. But thanks, I've learned a lot from this discussion about why many guitarists do appreciate tabs. |
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I was born in 1960 and nobody I know learned to read music in school. Those of us who took band or chorus did, of course. But other than learning to tap rhythms with sticks in kindergarten or whatever it wasn't part of a general educational program.
Then again I also learned it in the piano lessons my mother made me take and in church choir practice. Maybe even some other place I've forgotten. It's not exactly obscure knowledge.
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Maybe it's because I hated my early experience that the notes don't "sing" to me until I play them. |
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One thing I never liked about beginning piano books of popular vocal songs is that they were arranged with the melody in the right hand and some kind of chord with the left. Have you ever tried to sing with this? SLS!
Imagine "Tutti-Fruiti" "Great Ball of Fire" "Piano Man" . . . this was terrible. After a while, I'd get the sheet music with the guitar chords on it and just improvise using the chords, sometimes I'd look at some of the passing notes. Sounded better and more like the original than what was written. |
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There are certainly cases where tab is superior, such as when using open tunings. |
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Sorry, it was about 4am here when you posted that. Late, even for me!
I think what Brent was trying to say is that Aristotle is better than Plato Quote:
(note that this is coming from someone who enjoys both reading and writing tab)
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We can't access music as a thing-in-itself but only perceive its manifestations. Perhaps through sufficiently clever Hybrid Tab we can at least become maximally cognizant of those manifestations through playing the guitar. Or maybe not.
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well i guess you don't have to love tabs, since you understand how to read standard notation dude, but I think you have to understand tabs not loving it, its just about to "enrich" your knowledge in music..
even my own self really want to be able reading standard notation. But I can't |