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3 3/4" thick 16" bottom
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That helps distinguish your guitar from the thin-line models. I still think L-48 or L-50 (depending on the back and sides wood, which I see you said mahogany for the sides; how about the back?)
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looks like maple to me. I have pics of it back in the first posts, but not mahogony, thats for sure
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If it is maple it is most likely a L-50.
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Thanks, what wood would let you know it were an L48? trying to learn as much as I can
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Ok, now after looking at spuce gibson tops online, mine looks like its spruce to me, the straight grain made me think it was mahogony, but now seeing others, it has to be spruce, and after seeing backs online, the back is maple. i hope I am not driving you all crazy, my apologies. I hope this gives some better clues
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No worries! From what i have been reading, mahogany was used on L-48s and maple on L-50s, basically.
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Looks like an L50. The L48s had laminated tops. This looks like a carved top, based on the f-hole edge. If it's a 1967, hold onto it. They only made 57 that year.
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Thanks for the info, If its not a laminated top, are you saying that looking at the edge of the f hole I can tell? Will there be noticable layers in the wood if its laminated? Like plywood? Thanks for any info on this.The only thing I know is the date based on the numbers
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The important thing in identifying value is whether it has a raised fretboard extension or the fretboard is connected to the top (like a flat-top).
The former could make it an L-4 or L-7 the latter any one of those L-xx models which whilst functional are not of the same quality/value. |
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The fretboard isnt raised, so I can definetly assume its an l-48 l-50 type. I dont expect, or care, really, about a high value, though it would be nice to know an estimated value, its very modest looking, but plays like nothing else I have ever owned, its a joy to play. I just want to be certain, if thats possible, of what I have when I am asked. If the L-48 had laminated tops, and mine doesnt look laminated to me, looking at the f holes, then I guess I can be confident its an L-50? Or are there other models with these dimensions built in 67? Thanks for the advice
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Hi Sean, don't know if this is any help: http://home.provide.net/~cfh/gibson2.html Looks to me like an L-48 (dot markers, no fingerboard binding), as opposed to the L-50 (trapezoid inlays, bound fingerboard).
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Thanks, I have looked at his site, and I actually wrote him an email awhile back, but never got a respose, and what I read didnt help a ton, there wasnt alot on the lesser grade gibsons, but I appreciate the help. Thank you
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I agree with what your saying, but others have told me, the L-48 didnt have solid tops, and this one does, thats the big question, it looks cosmetically like an L-48, but built like and L-50 as far as woods go.
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L-48's had pressed-wood laminate tops. F-Hole L-50's *mostly* had solid carved tops - but not all of them. Like a lot of Gibson models, there was inconsistency in features, and also random exceptions. I don't know archtops well at all, and have not looked into 60's versions at all - I was at RetroFret recently where they have an L-48 and an L-50 or two for sale - including some early round-hole L-50's - and they were the ones that mentioned how these inexpensive Gibson archtops were variable.
You would be well served to reach out to archtop experts like archtop.com, RetroFret in Brooklyn, etc. and ask them. When I see L-48's and L-50's they are typically selling in the $1,500 - $2,500 range in decent condition, but those are for examples from the 40's and 50's. The L-50's sell for a bit more than the L-48's, but not by much. Best of luck.
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