#1
|
||||
|
||||
3 Guitars - 3 Pickups / With Sound Sample
As the subject says
Shoot out between 3 pick up systems . It’s not an apples to apples comparison..........Varied woods and body shapes. FWIW: All three pickups could use some EQ Method… All guitars are running mono into a Mackie board and there is a microphone by each speaker 1) Furch D-32 LM (Hog and Alpine spruce). Hybrid set up - HFN SBT with K&K mic running through an on board 2 channel K&K Pre. Both HFN and mic are set equally 2) MJ Franks Legacy OM (Rosewood and Adi). LR Baggs Anthem SL with the On board Anthem pre. Mic is rolled back around 15% 3) Martin D-35 (Rosewood and Sitka Spruce). Passive K&K running straight to the mixer
__________________
David Webber Round-Body Furch D32-LM MJ Franks Lagacy OM Rainsong H-WS1000N2T Stonebridge OM33-SR DB Stonebridge D22-SRA Tacoma Papoose Voyage Air VAD-2 1980 Fender Strat A few Partscaster Strats MIC 60s Classic Vib Strat Last edited by Mbroady; 01-07-2022 at 06:26 PM. |
#2
|
||||
|
||||
To my ears, #1 and #2 are both quite good, but I prefer #1 as having a bit more air. Really didn't like #3, so even though there are only three entries I'd put it in fourth place
|
#3
|
|||
|
|||
1 - 2 ----3 for me.
1 sounds natural, woody, airy - anything you would want from a decent amplified guitar 2 sounds pretty good, but I notice artifacts in the treble register and less woodiness 3 lacks dimension and air, sounds dull Thank you for a fine comparison !
__________________
Blazer & Henkes, vintage Martins & Gibsons, Altman, Martin 00016 Streetmaster mandolin family, Weissenborn, dobro, lap steel, pedal steel, 5-string banjo live gear: Dazzo, Schatten, K&K, Mimesis Kudos, Schoeps CMC6MK4, DPA4061, Neumann KM85, Grace Felix 2, SunnAudio, ToneDexter, RedEye https://www.youtube.com/@roberthasleder1526 |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
#2 is my favorite. Then #1 and then #3.
__________________
Please SUBSCRIBE to my YouTube channel |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
I like them in order; 1,2,3. The first one sounds very natural, but the important thing is that the treble/high end has a nice natural/smoothness to it. 2 is definitely good, but it has that tone of the Anthem that I don't like. It's as if the high end is thin and the tru-mic has a characteristic sound. 3 is good but obviously sounds the least natural.
|
#6
|
||||
|
||||
Thanks all for playing along. It’s a tough call. All three are a little harsh on the high end, but that can be fixed with a bit of EQ
# 3 is gonna be replaced with either 1 or 2. #1 has on-board EQ so that’s a plus. #2 could benefit from a small balance tweak between the mic and UST. I’ll try another round, this time I’ll spend some time playing with the pre (and and post) EQ.
__________________
David Webber Round-Body Furch D32-LM MJ Franks Lagacy OM Rainsong H-WS1000N2T Stonebridge OM33-SR DB Stonebridge D22-SRA Tacoma Papoose Voyage Air VAD-2 1980 Fender Strat A few Partscaster Strats MIC 60s Classic Vib Strat |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
2-1 and a distant 3 for me. An eq’ed test would be helpful. Thanks for your work and sharing. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
2, 1 and 3 for me also.
But, while the sound of 3 is different from 1 and 2, I don't think it's a bad sound. If you played #3 for me alone without 1 and 2 as a comparison, I'd tell you it sounds good. But after hearing 1 and 2, #3 sounds a little artificial, or not nearly as natural as 1 and 2. |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
1, 2, 3 for me.
|
#10
|
|||
|
|||
2-1-3
1 and 2 are both nice, 3 is far far behind.
__________________
Martin D-18MD, Martin OM-21, Martin CEO-7, Martin J-40, Martin 000-1, Guild D-55, Guild D-140, Gibson SJ-200, Gibson Hummingbird, Gibson Frank Hannon Love Dove, Gibson Southern Jumbo, Furch Gc-SR Red Deluxe, Furch Yellow Masters Choice, Larrivee P-03ww, Kawaii piano, mandolines, drumsets, doublebass, Fender Jazzbass, ... |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
1, 2 & 3 here. 1 & 2 are both real nice though.
Thanks for posting. |
#12
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Don't like the sound of any of them. They all have a very distinct 'pickup' attack (K&Ks alone like #3s sound pretty awful). Pickups recorded directly never sound as nice as when tempered through an amp or PA. I have no favorite, but certainly can spot the elephant in the room. |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Thanks for this demo! My order of preference is: 1, 2, 3. The first two guitars benefit by having an internal mic along with the SBT, whereas the Martin uses only a K&K SBT. I definitely prefer the tone of #1, the Furch, by a wide margin over the others.
__________________
Martin HD-28 Sunburst/Trance M-VT Phantom Martin D-18/UltraTonic Adamas I 2087GT-8 Ovation Custom Legend LX Guild F-212XL STD Huss & Dalton TD-R Taylor 717e Taylor 618e Taylor 614ce Larrivee D-50M/HiFi Larrivee D-40R Blue Grass Special/HiFi Larrivee D-40R Sunburst Larrivee C-03R TE/Trance M-VT Phantom RainSong BI-DR1000N2 Emerald X20 Yamaha FGX5 Republic Duolian/Schatten NR-2 |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
I had a slight preference for the airiness in #2 #1 I preferred to #2 on some of the bass portions and the balance. #3 sounded quite piezo like to me and also was the one I least preferred
Looking through your descriptions I am thinking it may be the guitar / wood of #2 I prefer a little bit and the pickup setup of #1. |
#15
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
I think it’s more of a brontosaurus then an elephant And yes, we are (all) in agreement that pickups recorded directly are just about as bad, if not worse then finger nails on a chalk board. Though the samples leave much to be desired, they were not recorded direct. A Mic was placed by the 2 (relatively cheap) studio monitors. I do think with some minimal EQ ( slight bass boost, scoop the mids a hair, and cut the highs) 1 and 2 could sound decent. Especially through a decent system. I actually recorded a sample direct and it was far worse. I’m curios, do you have, non direct, before and after sample recordings with your Tonedexter IRs?
__________________
David Webber Round-Body Furch D32-LM MJ Franks Lagacy OM Rainsong H-WS1000N2T Stonebridge OM33-SR DB Stonebridge D22-SRA Tacoma Papoose Voyage Air VAD-2 1980 Fender Strat A few Partscaster Strats MIC 60s Classic Vib Strat Last edited by Mbroady; 01-10-2022 at 06:05 AM. |