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Keep the 000-15sm | 47 | 72.31% | |
Exchange for 000-15m | 18 | 27.69% | |
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll |
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My read of the original post before my prior reply was that the inquiry was about which guitar the reader would choose in a similar circumstance. I answered accordingly without regard to how the OP would manage the completion of the transaction in light of the shipping error.
I do not view the SM as being a substitute item for the 000-15M, if for not other reason than the difference in price. I would alert the dealer and not second guess the necessity in doing so. It’s simply how I do things. If the dealer wants it back, then it can arrange for pickup. If the dealer doesn’t want it, then I’d keep it and regard the transaction as complete. The ethical course of conduct is one that allows the dealer to decide if it wants the guitar back. As far as discussing money, I would not. Last edited by Brick is Red; 09-29-2021 at 04:12 PM. Reason: Substance and clarity |
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I didn't see the poll originally as I was on mobile. Either guitar to keep - your call, but they are quite a bit different. And SM are my initials too so I'd be leaning that way
I am reminded of an old saying: An honest man's pillow is his conscience - or was that John Cougar Mellencamp? Anyway, to not advise the dealer would bother me and it should bother those of you advising to keep it and say nothing.
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My personal preference would be the SM.
But another consideration I have not seen posted: - If you ever need warranty service, your proof of purchase/receipt will need to match the model & serial number of the guitar which is to be serviced. - A personal preference - one guitar or the other? Yes. - A moral decision? Not my call. - Proof of purchase needs to be accurate for warranty purposes? Yes. |
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Sorry, I should have clarified a few thing!
1. Yes I paid for the 15m and they sent the SM by their mistake 2. I meant that if I kept the 15sm I would alert them to this and offer to pay the difference in price. So my dilemma is purely down to the 15m vs SM. Oh and also that as someone mentioned if I did decide to swap it, it would take a couple of months to complete the exchange with return shipping etc |
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Regarding the ethics, it's totally your call. I understand both sides of the argument but this is not a case of ordering an 000-15m and getting a 000-42. Between TWO extra shipping costs they'd pay for, and the fact they should list the returned 000-15sm as an open-box, B-stock, or something else, that $300 is eaten by them regardless. If you feel the need then certainly advise them of their mistake. Based on the above $$$'s (and the appreciation they should show to you) I'd frankly think they were jerks if they didn't say, "thank you for letting us know and if you're happy with it just keep it as is." I guess that's risk you might take...again fully your call with no judgement from this AGF'er. |
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For me, the 000-15m is the better guitar. It's more versatile, it has a bit more pop, and I appreciate the slimmer nut. I understand that there are those who are enamored of the slotted headstock, but they are in the minority in terms of the guitar-buying public. If they weren't, more slotted guitars would be built these days, right? The same with 12-fret bodies. I honestly can't understand the charms of a non-cutaway 12 for those who play up the neck.
I suppose the 000-15sm might be a better guitar for a fingerstyle player, but if that's not you, send it back. I'm a rhythm guitarist from the get-go, which explains my preference for the 000-15m. They're both good guitars, regardless. Just thank the guitar gods they didn't send you a Streetmaster version.
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And I'd keep the 000-15SM hands down if I liked the neck. That model is far more appealing to me than the 000-15M.
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The OP has already clarified that he will let the dealer know, so no need to comment on that. One comment that has come up more than once that interests me, and is perhaps better as a new thread, is whether the dealer would restock the retuned guitar and sell it as new or as “open box.” With so many dealers operating online, at what point does a guitar become “open box”? My sense is that most dealers consider demo’d guitars “new” even when shipped back and forth several times.. |
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The OP has already clarified that he will let the dealer know, so no need to comment on that. One comment that has come up more than once that interests me, and is perhaps better as a new thread, is whether the dealer would restock the retuned guitar and sell it as new or as “open box.” With so many dealers operating online, at what point does a guitar become “open box”? My sense is that most dealers consider demo’d guitars “new” even when shipped back and forth several times.. |
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Good on you for that. That's the right thing to do.
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Yep...the only way to go.
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You're assuming there was a dopey warehouse guy, as opposed to someone in a small shop who simply made an honest mistake... |
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A well known vender just sent me a case of 12 very expensive tuners when I paid for 1. I promptly returned the 11 I didn’t pay for. My wife is always saying I’m to honest. I’ve asked her to put that on my tombstone.
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