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There are at least two considerations:
1. How does your shoulder like the F size? My shoulder is fussy, but yours may not care. 2. Which sound do you prefer? I admit it's a fairly small difference, but I find the S model a bit more focused. That works better for my music, but it may not for yours.
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If you find one you like, I can heartily recommend a Lowden F - I've heard great things about the Os but I've never tried one, and they do look big.
My F23 (cedar/walnut) is a joy to play - the size of the lower bout is comfortable and seems to drop my picking hand into just the right position over the strings (whereas when I play the Gibson in the list below, it feels cut adrift/unanchored somehow). As others have mentioned the slightly narrower waist than a dread also helps, and it's a shape I absolutely love. Also agree re the 45mm nut width - my F35 had a custom 43.5mm nut, and I think that was one of the reasons I just didn't quite get along with it. Amazing the difference 1.5mm can make... But really, as others have said, you'll only really know when you pick one up and play it. Happy hunting Angus
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For comparison's sake, here's quick and dirty screengrabs of a 6'3" 285lbs guy with an A (slightly different shape than a newer Lowden F, but same size lower bout, scale length etc.) and an L (same shape and dimensions as an 'O') respectively:
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+1. I've never played the S size before but having played the O and the F, I bought the F. Easier on my shoulder than the O and still had great tone and volume.
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Now, when it comes to weight, I think it works opposite, because when I was 345lbs (see below) I HAD to play the A if playing seated, because my arm wouldn't go over the L without messing with my wrist (mainly). Thankfully I left competitive lifting and have lost all the weight and can play either again now.
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F by a country mile. I had an S for a day and was sorely disappointed. Boxy sound with no presence or depth. I have 2 Fs and love them.
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Thanks all. Appreciate the feedback.
Ok, have decided on an F model in cedar/rosewood. I always had my heart set on an S model in spruce/rosewood or cocobolo. But, for bass response and fingerstyle, will try this. Thanks. |
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A very good choice, I hope you enjoy it.
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I'm 70yo, 5'8", 160lbs (with previous right arm rotator cuff surgery) and have owned a couple of Lowden F's...never found the size of the F body to be an issue. They sound great too! Dan
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Don't forget you can get an F in a 12 fret. Which may help with size, certainly brings the frets 1 thru 3 closer to your body. But no help with the bout sizes.
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Yep, got a F25 12 fret off of Reverb from a store in the UK. Hopefully this is a keeper.
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Love my F 35 12 fret. I hope yours makes you as happy.
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I am a big fan of Lowden's, and own a number.
The O is a sound I know from way back as Justin Sullivan of New Model Army has always played them. I was delighted when I got one of my own! I also have a S12 with a sinker redwood top ... it's a lovely rich sounding instrument that lives by my desk - as a noodling, practice, quietly accompanying guitar - lovely thing. I also have a cutaway F ... for me the O is at it's best playing rich full chords and as a powerful strummer. The F has a more piercing tone that I like for flatpicking melody ... a more balanced and less shouty tone than a dreadnought. None are one-trick ponies... they all play and sound brilliant... but I am able to choose acording to the situation. |
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That's fantastic! Enjoy your 12 fretter.
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