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11-18-2012, 11:23 AM
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Flame Maple Custom Shop Guitar
Question for the luthiers - What would be a reasonable price range for a luthier-built Flame Maple Acoustic-Electric Dreadnaught guitar as described:
25.5" Scale / 22 Nickle Silver Frets Cut a Way Design Gold Plate Tuners / Strap Button Pearloid Button Tuners Hand Inlay Neck using Mother of Pearl and Abalone Multi Color / Material Body Binding Body is Celuloid Bound Front and Back Neck is Celluloid Bound 40" Total Length / 15" Across Lower Bout 4" In Body Depth Flame Maple Headstock 42.5mm or 1.673" Nut 58.6mm or 2.30" Last Fret Maple Neck / Select Rosewood Fretboard No Logo .. Built in Digital Tuner EQ with Presence / Treble / Middle / Bass Volume / On / Off Thanks for any responses. 
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#2
11-18-2012, 12:29 PM
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You have contradictory specifications in your list. A decent luthier can help you resolve those conflicts.
If you cruise builder's websites such as my own, you can easily work up a price for a specific guitar. Those will range from 2500 to 25000 and is most cases you will get what you pay for. The best actual value likely comes in in the middle of the range as that is where the most evolved quality exists before you start paying for various forms of abstract "value added".
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#3
11-18-2012, 12:48 PM
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I suspect the OP is trying to decide what an existing guitar is worth, instead of the price for building one. It's value would depend on the builder, the builders reputation, and the guitar itself.
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11-18-2012, 01:08 PM
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One of my questions would be...with no logo or branding, how does one know this is in fact luthier-built? And even if so, this could range from the "luthier-built" instruments I've seen from part-time hobbyists that were clearly unfit for commercial sale...to high-end instruments by the likes of the builders on this site. To answer the OP's question - the specifications, woods, binding, etc, have virtually no bearing on the price compared to who built it, and how well they built it.
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11-19-2012, 12:42 PM
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Thank you all for your responses. I was referring to a guitar that is already built with the specifications as described. I'm not sure though what the contradictory specifications could be.
I'm just trying to get an idea if a guitar like this would sell for a few hundred dollars or perhaps somewhere above $1,000. Judging from the responses, it could go either way.
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11-19-2012, 01:03 PM
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Multi Color / Material Body Binding Body is Celuloid Bound Front and Back Neck is Celluloid Bound Are you thinking of Multi Color / Material Purfling and not binding, since you spec Celluloid binding for the body and neck? Sounds like this could easily go over $1000, although it could be in the hundreds if you're thinking of a massed produced guitar built in a factory overseas. BTW - that nut width would be way too small for me to work with 
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11-19-2012, 06:35 PM
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The conflict is between it being a dreadnaught as it says in the heading, and being 4" thick, 15" wide, 40" long, and having 22 frets. Dreads are quite a bit bigger and have fewer frets.
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#8
11-19-2012, 07:28 PM
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Since the guitar is already built, who the luthier is dictates a great portion of the asking price. More for the labor, less for the material.
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#9
11-19-2012, 08:52 PM
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A dread is a dread is a dread is a dread.
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11-19-2012, 09:31 PM
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Much like Bruce said. The constraints of a dread in terms of design are what make it a dread. What is being described here by the OP sounds more like a modified OM or Grand Concert to me.
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#11
11-20-2012, 09:34 AM
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The "dreadnaught" description was basically my interpretation. The seller describes this guitar as a prototype. I evidently made an erroneous assumption. The other descriptions are the seller's, not mine.
This guitar is supposed to be luthier-built, not mass produced but the luthier is not identified. I guess this does raise a few questions. Thanks all.
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