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Old 03-25-2020, 08:30 PM
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Default Bad hum on Martin HD28E Retro when plugged in?

I get a bad hum on my Martin HD28-E Retro whenever it gets plugged in and was wondering if any one of you might have experienced this before? I have a feeling it's the Aura electronics that is causing this as I can get the hum to stop when I randomly place a finger or two on the Aura PCB board.

Wondering if any one has any advice for me? I am located outside of the US so sending it back to Martin is going to be tough here.

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Are there any Authorized Martin Repair Centers or decent guitar techs in your neck of the woods???
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bad cord maybe
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Are there any Authorized Martin Repair Centers or decent guitar techs in your neck of the woods???
Yeah, will be considering that option if I can't get it fixed soon.
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Old 03-25-2020, 08:48 PM
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bad cord maybe
Cord works fine with my other guitars.
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Old 03-25-2020, 09:27 PM
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Roughly, it sounds like a grounding problem to me, but I’d have to know a lot more about the Aura system to venture more. On an electric, I’d be checking the grounding on the pickups.
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Old 03-25-2020, 09:39 PM
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Based on the way you phrase the question can we assume you bought new with Aura installed by Martin, thus you're looking for warranty service? Having eliminated a bad cord or amp problem, if it stops when you touch the board it sounds like a bad ground or "solder" somewhere, or just a "bad board" in general. I'd think Martin would rather a local certified tech look at it. A competent Martin certified tech should be able to track down the cause and quickly repair. (PS: be prepared that you may have to deal with Fishman not Martin on a warranty issue.)
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:16 AM
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Sounds like a grounding issue. If I remember correctly the Aura is based around a Matrix under saddle pickup element. If the shielding coating on the pickup gets scratched or damaged it will cause a loud hum.

Pull out the saddle and check the state of the pickup underneath - it doesn’t have to be a major scratch for it to be a problem, just through the shielding to the metal underneath.

If the element is undamaged then the grounding issue is elsewhere - start by checking that the wiring on the output jack is whole; the ground wire might have come loose.
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Old 03-26-2020, 05:26 AM
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There is no one guitar cord that works with everything. I've had cords that worked great and thought the same thing until I had a ground hum on my acoustic once. I went through the logical list and found the "good" cord did not work on this particular guitar. Guess what, it was a Martin with aura too.Try a Mogami guitar cord.
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Old 03-26-2020, 05:35 AM
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Sounds like a grounding issue. If I remember correctly the Aura is based around a Matrix under saddle pickup element. If the shielding coating on the pickup gets scratched or damaged it will cause a loud hum.

Pull out the saddle and check the state of the pickup underneath - it doesn’t have to be a major scratch for it to be a problem, just through the shielding to the metal underneath.
A damaged Matrix UST is the likely culprit. The foil shield is easily damaged. Have you removed the guitar's saddle lately?

Next I would check the connector between the UST and the preamp PCB. I don't know what the latest ones use but it has been screw connectors in the past. The ground screw (no harm in tightening both) may be loose.
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Old 03-26-2020, 06:23 AM
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if you can touch the endpin jack and the hum goes away, that's a ground loop.

Try different outlets in your house.

Try to float the ground on your amp by using a three prong to two prong adapter for the outlet.

If you take it to another location, chances are, it wont hum at all.

I've been down this road a few times, it's frustrating...
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