Why Cedar Wood not popular?

[pbla4024]

Originally Posted by jihyeu

Thanks.

Do you know any in $2,000 range you would recommend?

What about Furch/Stonebridge? They do have many cedar topped models.

[Carmel Cedar]

I have a cedar-topped R Taylor Style 2 (actually plan to put it up for sale in a week - love it but playing my new Froggy more! ). I had heard about the low headroom for strumming, but I can strum mine hard and it keeps up just fine. Many I'm not attacking it hard enough to hit its limit, but it's been very versatile for me. And wonderful to finger-pick!! Inspired my AGF moniker, in fact (along with a cedar Charis that I loved).

[j3ffr0]

As far as the American steel string sound, it is defined more so by Martin than any other. Martin doesn't do much cedar. I have two Alvarez with cedar and I love it.

[JLed79]

Find a nice Redwood topped guitar great balance between spruce and cedar. Higher sonic ceiling while retaining warmth.
Just my humble opinion.

[handers]

Originally Posted by jihyeu

Thanks.

Do you know any in $2,000 range you would recommend?

Used O10 Lowdens go for that range if u can find one from bf 2004.
Hans

[rick-slo]

As far as bridges coming off, with cedar pieces of cedar are more likely to come off with along with the bridge than is the case with spruce - a further headache for warranty repair.

[scottishrogue]

I would disagree, from a players perspective, but dealers shy away from cedar topped guitars because they require a more "delicate" playing style because they can be easily damaged.

I own several cedar topped guitars, and all but one use nylon strings. My Art & Lutherie 12-string dreadnought has a cedar top with wild cherry back & sides. No belly bulge, no bridge lift, no dips around the soundhole, and the action is low, and it sounds better than most 12-string guitars I have played. And I like the look, too!

Glen

[damononline]

Rockbridge is another builder that uses red cedar. I've had mine for a little over a month. I love the response of this guitar. It's amazing to play a guitar where you don't feel like it's working against you. Amazing clarity as well. If you have the chance to play one. I highly recommend it.

[psr-740]

Originally Posted by AZLiberty

This is the exact reason Mathew gave us for not wanting to build a Cedar topped Larrivee Forum guitar.

Obviously it can be done, see all the cedar topped Seagulls and Breedloves out there, but I certainly believe Matt when he says that the glue bond issue is a concern.

I have this guitar from larrivee, I think that only one was made.
the combination of the cedar and the Zircote make this guitar so amazing.
cedar create a warm and very round sound but for strumming at high volumes it is maybe not the best choice. however, when you combine the cedar with hard wood like the zircote for the back and side, you get huge volume and crispiness but you don't lose the warmth of the cedar.
I also have the C-10 from larrivee and a mahogany top+back and sides Larrrivee and the cedar/zircote is in a different league. I have never heard or played a guitar with such "never ending" sustain, balance,and rich sound.

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[Basalt Beach]

Originally Posted by cke

I know a couple of builders who stopped using cedar stating warranty issues. Cedar is comparatively oily and flaky so the wood sometimes has glue bond issues, particularly with the bridge on a steel string guitar.

Originally Posted by AZLiberty

This is the exact reason Mathew gave us for not wanting to build a Cedar topped Larrivee Forum guitar.

Obviously it can be done, see all the cedar topped Seagulls and Breedloves out there, but I certainly believe Matt when he says that the glue bond issue is a concern.

Taylor is a major maker using Cedar and Lowden is small shop, both of whom seem to have mastered the issue. Perhaps the problem lies with the maker and their process.

[ewalling]

Originally Posted by psr-740

I have this guitar from larrivee, I think that only one was made.
the combination of the cedar and the Zircote make this guitar so amazing.
cedar create a warm and very round sound but for strumming at high volumes it is maybe not the best choice. however, when you combine the cedar with hard wood like the zircote for the back and side, you get huge volume and crispiness but you don't lose the warmth of the cedar.
I also have the C-10 from larrivee and a mahogany top+back and sides Larrrivee and the cedar/zircote is in a different league. I have never heard or played a guitar with such "never ending" sustain, balance,and rich sound.

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There was a Larrivee OM with a 'Tree of Life" motif for sale at Willcutt for ages which was made of cedar and rosewood. Boy, did I lust after that guitar, but it wasn't cheap! It looked absolutely fabulous, and I'll bet it sounded even better.

[kydave]

I bought a used Seagull 12 string dreadnaught with a cedar top.

I had been looking at/playing some Martins, Guilds and Taylors - all solid woods and in the $2000 +/- range.

This used Seagull (with factory Baggs electronics) cost me $250 and sounded amazingly good relative to the name brands. I attribute that to the cedar taming the jangle and helping the bottom/fullness.

[cisco7]

Hi, i got myself a Taylor 414CE Fall Limited Edition

Cedar Top
Rosewood B/S

The sound is amazing to my ears.. warm and resonating... i don't quite know how to describe it but it greatly fits my light fingerstyle touch

[McShepherd]

Originally Posted by Oldguy64

I still search for a fairly nice EARLY Yairi DY62ce. I fell hard for them a long while back. Then I heard Monte Montgomery. It sealed the deal. And just to make things interesting, it'd be really nice if one were to show up in the greater KC metro so I can have some actual interaction with it so I can decide if dreams and reality match up.
Unfortunately, they changed the formula for the DY62, and the MMY1 signature model, which is basically the original DY62, has an MSRP of over $3000.
Add to that, every early DY62 I've seen offered for sale that is in my price range looks like it was used to fend off a epic raid in the castle by Huns armed with swords and axes.

You don't think those guys are just trying to make theirs look like Monte's?

[JohnM2001]

Jim Olsen seems to like using cedar tops. I bet most of the guitars in this pile of Olsen SJs are cedar/rosewood, a wonderful combo to my ears.