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You can find incredible values in used Guilds from the '70's and early '80's. Made in Westerly, RI, solid wood, high quality materials, excellent design and craftsmanship.
For $600 to $700, there are a number of options in gently used Guilds from this era. D-25, D-30, D-35, D-40, F-20, F-30, M-20. Each has its own flavor. Look for one that has some saddle showing above the bridge and acceptable action at the 12th fret. Many from the '70's and '80's are now in need of a neck reset.
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After acquiring several all-solid-wood Epiphone Masterbilts, I started selling them off to fund a Gibson J-45, but was waylaid by a jumbo U.S.-made Guild F50R. I'm now a major Guild fan.
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The D140 is a dread, of course. I'd suggest looking at the jumbos, too. All of my 6- and 12-string Guilds are jumbos. Talk about big booming sound! Quote:
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I'm no expert, but I know quite a bit about guitars. What am I looking for? I've read you should try 2 0r 3 of a model you want, and pick the one you like the best. What is an example of a lemon guitar? I got lucky with my s6. No problems, sings like a song bird. |
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There is one dealer near me, which on their website is offering the guild D140 for $800, and another for $1,159.
Recently, I went to buy the Alvarez AD70 at another dealer, because it was on sale on their website. It was on sale for like over a year, since the model was discontinued. They up sold me from wanting the AD60 which they didn't have in stock anyway. When they went to get the last AD70 it turned out, they already sold the last one, ever. So, my guess is the $800 d140 didn't sell well, because people want other brands and with a built-in pickup. I bet their stock is from a few years ago, and has been sitting in their storage in its box a few years. But that really make it worth it to me. Seriously I'm leaning towards the D240E. That's pending that I get a chance to see and play both. What kinds of things should I look for in terms of quality? What kinds of things should I watch out for in terms of potentially a lemon guitar? |
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I have owned a few Guilds. All imports except 2. A 70's D40 and a True American (which I detested) but that could have been me getting a dud.
There aren't a lot of Guilds out there to play. I have purchased on-line and been quite fortunate but was willing to eat the freight if I had to do a return. Cheaper than taking the depreciation hit on selling a used guitar. THe current Westerly line is full of ALL kind of spec variations so maybe ask yourself: 1) Do I have a preference of burst over natural? Some models only come in natural which I have grown tired of. 2) Do I want a cutaway? 3) Does the guitar need to be all solid wood? Many of Guilds laminates with solid top sound pretty durn good. 4) Do I want an Orchestra, OM, Dred, Dred Slope, Jumbo, or 00 ? Lots of variances there as well. 5) What width nut? 6) Shape of neck front to back? Some are thicker than others. 7) Do you prefer the arch back over a flat back? 8) Pickups? Doesn't matter. I find it nice if one is included for the occasional times that I want to plug in and do not feel like sticking a sound hole pup in. I am clearly addicted to Guild Guitars but I just can not spend the monies on an American made (God bless you guys that can) Guild and I only buy relatively new used or brand new guitars. Spend a lot of time looking at the specs and maybe you might even find one to try. Good Luck on your hunt! |
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I sampled a few other all wood guitars and fell in love with the sound and feel of the Ox M20. No electronics, I did add the LR Baggs lyric, which sounds great! Her sound just improves the longer i own and play it.
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I think some older USA made all wood Guilds are in your price range. Also, check out any Chinese made Guild GAD's in your area. You might be surprised by how nice they sound. Keep in mind that if they haven't been played for a long time, it might need to be played a little for it to remember it's a guitar. Bought a Guild D55 during winter and wasn't able to get it ready to play until a couple weeks ago. It hadn't been played for years and it had a lifting bridge as well as needing a cleat. The guitar tech said he believed it was a pre fender Guild. When I first got it back, it didn't sound like much and I was somewhat disappointed. Didn't compare at all to my Eastman E20D or my Martin D16GT but after a couple days, it sounded much, much better. Guilds are a good way to go. I have a 1970 Guild D40 as well and they have a certain growl to their sound that I like. I also have a Guild GAD JF30 which sounds great in it's own way but sounds different because of the jumbo size and maple back and sides. Anyway, good luck in your search!
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I mention it because it is not an inexpensive procedure (~$300 - $400) and is especially problematic in a $600 to $700 guitar, which may or may not be worth the investment in getting it reset.
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I think the D240E might be a enough for me. I really like the sound from the reviews on youtube, I will have to try it and the D140.
Anyone know if the arch back is good for sound? Or is it just to remove the back bracing, and make the guitar lighter and cheaper? |
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I only have a flat back s6 seagull. I don't know how like the back different. What is the difference aside from shape? I originally just wanted a decent spruce top alvarez with laminate back and sides just for something different from a cedar top. Many people in a previous convo convinced me if I get another guitar it should be an upgrade in quality, eg all solid. IDK, my s6 sounds nice. No real complaints there, but then again a solid does have that fuller mellow sound. I'm really not sure at this point d240 or d140. I don't like the cutaway look. It's not symmetrical. It's silly but it looks to me like only 3/4 of guitar with a gimpy shoulder. Isn't dred the standard? Is it hard to find a case for a jumbo? A jumbo is considered popular for folk and country isn't it? |
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I briefly owned the m240e with arched back. it projected great and was a solid guitar. Only sold it because I was gifted the m20. I really enjoyed the sound and the feel of it.
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