The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 06-14-2018, 07:21 PM
Treenewt Treenewt is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: The Ol' North State
Posts: 5,187
Default

I’d say Sitka too. I had a Larrivee OM-40 that had really wide grain, and it was Sitka.
__________________
Treenewt
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-14-2018, 08:16 PM
v32 finish v32 finish is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 817
Default

Looks pretty much identical to the top on my AJ, which is Adi.. (or possibly even a hair wider)... but due to the reasons already pointed out, I still think it's probably Sitka; there are definitely j45's with adirondack tops, but I'm pretty sure it would be known fact & quite a price jump. even if buying from a private seller, anyone willing to make that jump to buy it, is going to say something about it.

There's only one way to know 100%, and that's to reference the S/N at Gibson, which I'm not familiar with. I'm assuming this could tell you 100% whether it's sitka or adi, but I'm leaning about 97% towards sitka as it were.

Beautiful regardless.

Scott
__________________
2003 Washburn WD44S | Sitka/Hawaiian koa
2018 Gibson J-45 Vintage | Torrefied Adi/Mahogany
2015 Gibson Wildwood AJ New Vintage | Adi/EIR
Fishman | Loudbox Mini | Primetone 1.0mm

"what is the universe? the universe is a symphony of vibrating strings.." -michio kaku
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-15-2018, 07:52 AM
davenumber2 davenumber2 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,284
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by v32 finish View Post
Looks pretty much identical to the top on my AJ, which is Adi.. (or possibly even a hair wider)... but due to the reasons already pointed out, I still think it's probably Sitka; there are definitely j45's with adirondack tops, but I'm pretty sure it would be known fact & quite a price jump. even if buying from a private seller, anyone willing to make that jump to buy it, is going to say something about it.



There's only one way to know 100%, and that's to reference the S/N at Gibson, which I'm not familiar with. I'm assuming this could tell you 100% whether it's sitka or adi, but I'm leaning about 97% towards sitka as it were.



Beautiful regardless.



Scott


The specs on the J-45 Standard model have always been Sitka. Unless Gibson somehow mixed up a top piece then that’s what it is.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-15-2018, 10:47 AM
Gomers Gomers is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Cheshire, UK
Posts: 383
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by davenumber2 View Post
The specs on the J-45 Standard model have always been Sitka. Unless Gibson somehow mixed up a top piece then that’s what it is.
I didn't think that was beyond possibility to be honest.

Thanks for the replies gents, interesting reading from WHM too.
__________________
2008 Martin 000-15
2004 Yamaha LL-500
1995 Yamaha LA-8
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-15-2018, 01:22 PM
vw1300 vw1300 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Just west of Baltimore
Posts: 62
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sstaylor58 View Post
That certainly is wide grain on that top. I have a guitar with similar spacing in the grain. This particular guitar sounds wonderful...does anyone know if there is an association between the richness of the sound and wider grain?
I asked this question during a factory tour to Richard Hoover, founder of Santa Cruz guitars. He said no.
__________________
Charlie

-------------------------------------------------
2009 '69 Thinline Telecaster
2006 Gibson AJ
2001 Gibson J-50
1970's Baldwin/Ode banjo
1940 Harmony Patrician
1940 Harmony resonator
1930's Kalamazoo KG-11
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 06-15-2018, 01:38 PM
stephenT's Avatar
stephenT stephenT is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: GA & MN
Posts: 4,673
Default

Funny how the types of spruce can be so visually similar but (in my experience and generally speaking) Red Spruce, Sitka and Engelmann respond differently.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-15-2018, 01:53 PM
Rodger Knox Rodger Knox is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Baltimore, Md.
Posts: 2,431
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenT View Post
Funny how the types of spruce can be so visually similar but (in my experience and generally speaking) Red Spruce, Sitka and Engelmann respond differently.
Actually, they don't. There is so much variation and overlap in the physical properties of the spruces that it is just as difficult to tell one species from another based on the physical properties. I learned that from Alan Carruth.
__________________
Rodger Knox, PE
1917 Martin 0-28
1956 Gibson J-50
et al
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 06-15-2018, 03:16 PM
stephenT's Avatar
stephenT stephenT is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: GA & MN
Posts: 4,673
Default

That comment isn't consistent w/ my experience. Notice I said generally speaking, there's always exceptions, yet most folks who build guitars agree different species of spruce have individual characteristics.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodger Knox View Post
Actually, they don't. There is so much variation and overlap in the physical properties of the spruces that it is just as difficult to tell one species from another based on the physical properties. I learned that from Alan Carruth.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 06-15-2018, 03:55 PM
Rodger Knox Rodger Knox is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Baltimore, Md.
Posts: 2,431
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenT View Post
That comment isn't consistent w/ my experience. Notice I said generally speaking, there's always exceptions, yet most folks who build guitars agree different species of spruce have individual characteristics.
I agree that there are generalizations about both appearance and physical properties of the spruces. My point was that the physical properties vary as much as the appearance, and this thread has established that a species cannot be identified by appearance. I was referring specifically to the exceptions.

Everyone knows that all generalizations are false.
__________________
Rodger Knox, PE
1917 Martin 0-28
1956 Gibson J-50
et al
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-15-2018, 04:54 PM
Orfeas Orfeas is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Lake Tahoe
Posts: 2,048
Default

Like others said. I think its Sitka spruce
__________________
SCGC Custom OM Mars spruce/cocobolo
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Thread Tools





All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=