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Maybe Ill see if i can go over to Eric's house and check out his AKG 214's. And also take Ricks advice and see if I can change what is being presented to the mics. See if its either me or my guitar. Anton
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FWIW, I'm convinced it's you.
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No need to completely remake the sound - just fine tuning, a little bit of this and that, both pre and post recording.
So Anton, questions? - are you happy with the sound on your CD, an example of which you posted: http://www.celticfingerstyleguitar.c...ts/receipt.mp3 and is there some "ideal" sounding celtic guitar recording you can post a link to? Also the song you have been playing is in low C tuning I believe. What happens if you capo on the second fret? - it might clean up the bass notes and be a little brighter sounding - just a thought.
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I tried acrylics for a few months. Liked em fine, especially for regular fingerpicking. Gave me something alot more solid to dig in with. But I couldnt play clawhammer banjo with them. The additional thickness of the nail kept causing me to hit the adjacent string on the downstroke. Martin Simpson sure sounds good on banjo with em, but not for me i guess. So i took them off. Plus I think my tone was even darker than without, here is a sample.
https://soundcloud.com/antonemery/re...-acrylic-nails Rick, I have not had the humidity level checked yet. Need to do that. Regarding ideal tone, I like Doug Young's and Steve Baughmans tone. Steve's latest, Farewell to Orkney sounds particularly good. Its on Spotify. Nice and clear, with plenty of highs. Doug's sound is very smooth and clear. I generally feel, like Chris said, that my tone sounds dampened somehow. I liked the sound on my cd when I recorded it a few years ago. Now I think it sounds to muddy, especially when comparing to Doug and Steve. Im happy to experiment with other mics and things, but like Rick said I think its just me. Maybe some alaska picks would be worth a try. I recorded this tune earlier today, played clawhammer style. So all downstrokes with the back of my index finger nail. I think it sounds much clearer than the other standard fingerpicked stuff. So maybe the way I approach standard fingerpicking, essentially classical technique with flesh and nail, gives me that darker tone.
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If this thread continues, you need to define which "Rick" you are referring to. Re: your tone - allow me to suggest changing the "attack" angle of your fingers. It sounds as if you are striking the strings on a bias rather than straight on. This not only lessens definition but adds a scraping sound to the front of every note picked.
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Steve Baughmans tone on Farewell to Orkney sounds a little dark to me on a number of pieces. The good thing is if that is the tone you are after it should be doable. Doug's recordings sound better to my ears.
However in listening to finished recordings ready for release you are hearing post recording processing (reverb, equalization, etc.). Raw recordings rarely sound that good.
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Whoops, yea I meant you Rick Ruskin in that comment about my tone being me.
I have been working on changing my nail angle relative to the strings. I am trying to get the tips of the nails parallel to the strings. I hear that scraping sound that you are talking about when they are more at an angle.
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Original peak volume in the DAW was about minus 11-12 db. No meddling except I've lifted the volume so it peaks about -3. https://app.box.com/s/zm4y7ectjtq4055fg4fk Kym |
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Nice clean clear sound. Kind of what I wish I sounded like. So I guess my recorded tone must be me, as you have the exact same mics.
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Different guitar, different room, different song. Regarding different songs, your music is often in open and lowered tunings of one type or another, and there are more often ringing low notes that carry over the melody line. In such cases it can be harder to get a clean sounding recording where each note is clearly heard. Some tunes of mine I have yet to get a recording of I like due to a heavy blend of notes - sounds fine to me playing, but not when listening back to a recording. Some mike positions help, so keep experimenting. Also consider more note control with muting. Sometimes capoing up on certain tunes can help clean up the sound.
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What a fabulous thread!!! As a fellow traveller on the home recording learning curve the discussion here is providing me with an expanded range of ideas with which to experiment. Here's a big thanks from me to all the contributors and especially to Anton for initially getting the thread going.
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