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Old 07-27-2009, 05:45 AM
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I need some advice here guys, 2 questions. I found a real sweet late 60's Gibson J-45 at a pawn shop. The problem is, I think it is priced too high. Searching on ebay shows some similar guitars but the price range varies from a lot lower than what this pawn shop is asking to within a couple hundred dollars of it. I know price discussions aren't allowed here, but could anyone who could give me a more of an idea of a fair price PM me about the situation?

My second question concerns the condition of the guitar. Their is a crack that runs from the bridge to the back of the top of the guitar. How much of an issue is a crack like this. Are these usually repairable? I know this is probably a harder question without seeing it, but any advice is appreciated.

This guitar is really just overwhelming. Its cherry red with an orange burst and just sounds better than any guitar I've ever played. Thanks a lot guys.
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Old 07-27-2009, 05:59 AM
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My opinion is if it's a pawn shop they probably have it priced a little high and would expect you to dicker. In the old days you could pick up deals but today I think they do their research online just like we do. Cracks in tops are usually repairable.
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Old 07-27-2009, 06:03 AM
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I need some advice......

This guitar is really just overwhelming. Its cherry red with an orange burst and just sounds better than any guitar I've ever played. Thanks a lot guys.
Sounds like you already made up your mind.....just look online at J45 pricing. Check out the guitar stores that sell vintage J45's. If you really, really, like this guitar and can afford it, you should buy it.

I have never met a J45 I didn't like....some were beyond description. I have been saving for a used 40's-early 50's for some time now.
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Old 07-27-2009, 06:15 AM
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I'm with the c70man, nobody likes to overpay but if it's within your budget and you think it's that great sounding you don't want to overthink it. As yourself which of these two outcomes you woudl have have:

1) Let this guy soak your for a couple hundred extra bucks but you end up playing that J-45 every day for the next 20 years.

2) Keep that money in your pocket and hope to find another guitar you like that well one of these day.

Some people honestly would pick #2 because they can't stand the thought of someone getting "too much" money from them. But unless he's talking a total ripoff price most of us would be happier in situation #1, wouldn't we?
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Old 07-27-2009, 06:33 AM
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When I got my 64 LG1 a few months ago, I went in with the idea that I would be putting some money into it. It needed a neck reset as there was very little saddle left. I had the work completed and a K & K mini installed that added about 5 bills to the total I spent on the guitar. I personally feel that it is worth every penny I paid.

Since a J45 is a higher grade guitar to the LG1's I probably can't help you with what the value would be, but if you want, PM me and I can let you know what I paid for the LG1. I did a fair amount of research into the value and by checking ebay, craigslist and online bluebook sources you can get a good idea of the value but be advised that in this economy even vintage guitar sales are suffereing. If you go into the situation with a bit of research, you may likely dicker the J45 down to a decent deal and end up with a great lifetime guitar. Don't be afraid of having some repairs done. Top and back cracks likely are not a huge problem and are not cost prohibitive. If it needs it, a neck reset will set you back $300-500 + or -.
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:33 AM
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Alot depends on the year of the J-45. Because of its association with Norlin and design changes like the square shoulders and long scale, a 1969 J-45 will be worth quite a bit less than a 1968.

If the guitar just has a cracked top, the repair is not a big deal. Since it is an older guitar, I would also check for bellying. While a bit of bellying down below the board and bellying up behind the bridge is normal and not necessarily a bad thing (the only old acoustics that do not exhibit this are probably really overbuilt) check and make sure it is not too extensive as this could also indicate repairs are needed to the bridge, blackplate, braces and what have you.

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Knowing the year would help. 68 last year for sloped shoulder. Middle of the 60's went to narrow neck. Wider neck early 60's worth more.
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:36 PM
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It's true that the shape (round or square shoulder), year and certainly condition are going to effect the price. But if it's in generally good shape, and priced at least within reason, I say go for it if you like it.

It's getting harder to find old Gibbies that you can actually play first before you buy. Now, you usually have to buy off the 'bay, and hope for the best.

I have an old 1950 beater J-45, ugly as all get-out, but I love the daylights out of it. I'm sure you'll love yours too.
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