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Old 08-27-2019, 06:12 AM
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Default BRW guitars & CITES restrictions

Travelling with your BRW guitar is about to get easier:

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/27/75450...ficked-rosewoo

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Old 08-27-2019, 07:10 AM
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That's a good thing. IT just makes sense.
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Old 08-27-2019, 07:12 AM
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Still wouldn't buy a new guitar with BRW or Madagascar.
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Old 08-27-2019, 07:19 AM
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This proposal does not cover brazilian rosewood that will remain under Appendix I restrictions it does cover almost all other kinds of rosewood and buying and the musi industry will be thankfully free from the cites permit requirement if it is carried.
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:35 AM
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Default CITIES to remove Rosewood Restriction for Instruments

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/27/75450...M-reOFQqSXG7ZA

At NAMM they talked about removing the restriction on Rosewood for instruments - Looks like it is in the works - read the article
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:38 AM
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See other thread with same article: https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=555991
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:00 AM
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Looks like the Cites prohibition on guitars made from Rosewood will end soon...
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/27/75450...icked-rosewood
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:16 AM
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From what I could glean from the legalese, BRW is still on CITES 1, so international sales of that (and ivory) will still be restricted. This may be mostly aimed at the faux pas involving Indian rosewood, which got bundled up with the others in the rush to restrict the furniture trade even though it's farmed and not endangered.
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:35 AM
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As I understand it, Proposal 52 will if carried exempt all inished rosewood and bubinga guitars and guitar parts on Appendix II from needing cites permits.
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:46 AM
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Great news!
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:49 AM
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This could be huge! I look forward to reading this asap- thanks for the heads-up.
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Old 08-27-2019, 11:06 AM
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While the rules may change, I think I would be very careful still when traveling internationally with a rosewood guitar. You never know what the rank and file employees of various countries' customs may or may not be aware of. Perhaps I'm a cynic, but some agent may look at a gorgeous guitar with rosewood and think it might look nice hanging in their parlor...and you know the rest. Having lived in Mexico I know how these things can sometimes work.
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Default CITES Restrictions Reportedly Set to Be Lifted on Rosewood

CITES Restrictions Reportedly Set to Be Lifted on Rosewood via Guitar Player mag
A key CITES committee has reportedly approved an exemption lifting restrictions on the transportation of musical instruments constructed with rosewood.
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Old 08-27-2019, 12:26 PM
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While I would love to own a guitar with Rosewood B/S, sadly I do not. But as I've drooled over the various NGD posts here and elsewhere, I've noticed a huge variation of color, grain, etc., of rosewood used in guitars. Just considering its visual characteristics, Rosewood is an incredibly beautiful wood with a spectacularly wide visual variation.

I'm only mentioning this because I wonder how border enforcement officials and their minions can actually determine if a guitar really is Rosewood or simply stained to look like Rosewood or some other wood altogether?

I'm sure there are some characteristics an informed person would look for to determine if a specific instrument is made from Rosewood, but considering the incredible visual variations that I've seen and that found in any natural product, I wonder how such a determination has been made in the past.

I'm also curious if anyone here on AGF has personally had to deal with this issue at an international border.

I mean personally themselves.

Not a cousin's neighbor's brother-in-law.

Or even one's speculation based on an anonymous internet post.

I'm asking about one who has actually had to deal with this and their own instrument.

I'm not trying to flame anyone nor call anyone's integrity into question, I'm just curious if anyone here has had to deal with this issue themselves and how it turned out.

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Old 08-27-2019, 01:13 PM
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Five threads merged.

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