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What to do with the couch? I could leave it there...or move to back or side wall? |
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Picking a recording location is among other things influenced by the polar pattern of your microphone(s). If you use a cardioid type mike (like your mikes) sound coming towards the rear of the mike has much less of an impact on the recording. Given that volume drops six decibels with doubling of distance and looking at the typical cardioid polar pattern below you can see that playing facing a wall that is a few feet away with the mikes pointed away from the wall and towards you is not going to be a problem. With the mikes angled quite a bit (say in XY or ORTF mike setup) I would want to be further out from the wall.
On the other hand most of the sound volume of the guitar is projected forward. Behind the guitar (and you holding the guitar) the volume is also less by many decibels. That is a consideration when sitting facing out from a wall and the mikes facing the wall. Of course quieter sound reflections off of walls, etc. is not a bad thing. It's the rooms ambiance.
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I'm late to this.
Assuming nothing can be permanent/fixed, I'd probably make (4) 3' X 5' gobos from 1/2" plywood faced with 4" of OC 703 or Rockwool. Make a cave using the gobos, lay a couple 2X4's over the top, pile on some of the stuff you already have to serve as a roof. You can lay the gobos down sideways against that low back wall to get them out of the way. Besides the added cost of materials, put in another line item: "Flowers for Wife." |
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Yes, 4" of 703 surrounded by a lightweight wood frame is fine for hanging on the wall. But free-standing on the floor, probably not -- the frame will try to become a parallelogram. |
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I did this quick mock up on Photoshop to show how small the corner braces are. This is eyeballed but it's pretty close. There are no additional braces on the front and, as I said, they're holding up very well. Full disclosure: I hardly ever move it. If it were moved around a lot it might make a difference but that could likely be compensated for by making the corner braces larger and using 2" pine instead of 1".
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I have two floor standing 2' X 4', 4" rockwool panels with just 3" strips top and bottom and they are quite rigid. |
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So okay, you could make them backless with corner braces and they'd work. You can't fold up a triangle, so the size of the corner braces shouldn't matter.
I guess I was looking at it from the POV of a commercial studio owner whose clients tend to behave like stampeding buffalo. |
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That'll work.
At any rate, the headline is "Dead Gobo Cave." |
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Since my studio is reasonably well treated and I only need some extra, mobile panels from time to time I chose a very light alternative. Glued polysterene egg box panels on polymethane insulation panels. They are both available in my lumberyard in exactly the same sizes (50x100 cm) so it's 5 minutes work. The whole thing weighs next to nothing and is cheap. The polymethane panels are a little fragile so one could glue them on thin plywood. they won't resist buffalo stampeding but really help my acoustics where necessary. And yes, I know it is not the professional solution and polymethane is not for sound purposes, but as a second layer it works in my situation.
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Yep. I saw a good write up on this many years ago in a recording magazine. The way they did it was they made a frame like you suggested, and on the back side they used a mesh commonly called chicken wire, and on the front they used a simple flannel-like material.
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As long as you record in the middle of the wall, the panels you have will be plenty good. And btw, using those panels should be able to get you some very nice recordings. Now you just have to press that record button!
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The 3 1/2 ones make great portable gobo type panels and are fine as constructed with the 1 by pine frame and corner braces . I made some 1 by stands to mount them on (see post #24 )
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I have the 3.5 inch ones also. Mine are mounted on the ceiling above my recording space.
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