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Old 08-04-2022, 04:03 PM
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I once had a simillar issue on a Martin 0-16NY that I briefly owned, but on the second string. A sitar-like sound, in that case.

Have you changed the string in question, yet? Also, capoing up as mentioned
above, to rule out an issue at the nut (hoping I read closely enough).
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Old 08-04-2022, 04:11 PM
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Have you tried a capo at the first fret to help rule out the nut? Have you tried new E strings of different gauges?



Is your action high enough at the 12th fret, at least 2mm?



Have you checked for loose rattling hardware?


Every thing is fine . [emoji4]
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I once had a simillar issue on a Martin 0-16NY that I briefly owned, but on the second string. A sitar-like sound, in that case.



Have you changed the string in question, yet? Also, capoing up as mentioned

above, to rule out an issue at the nut (hoping I read closely enough).


Sitar sounds usually indicate bad nut slot or saddle wear . The issue is a result of rouge frequencies . Read my recent comment . # 12 and #14! [emoji4]
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I will bow out of this one.
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I will bow out of this one.


Lol come back and check the audio recording I do maybe that will shed some light . Hopefully tomorrow or Saturday.
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My bad if I mis spoke . Just tried now hitting the same notes and pitch on different strings sets off the same reaction .

I tuned up to standard as well so that helped get the results more pinned down I think .
So certain notes cause the problem regardless of which string the notes are played on?

Which notes?
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It could be back string noise, try putting like a piece of felt under the strings above the nut


Sorry if I missed ya , that’s for the info but that’s not the issue . [emoji4]
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So certain notes cause the problem regardless of which string the notes are played on?



Which notes?


Mention in post 12/14 B and D ok I’m going nuts my tuning was in a D flat so my tuner was bouncing around it should C and D

If I do a whole step slide up C to D it really sounds bad to the ear each gets a sympathy string response and guess going through the half step ( only a guess ) sours everything . Best I can say it .
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Ok heres the audio but it doesn't pickup the harshness. I didn't it would anyway have a listen , I hope I didn't waste anyone's time .

maybe you can pick up on something. one other thing i think if you listen at times you here my voice reverbing off the guitar,
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Ok heres the audio but it doesn't pickup the harshness. I didn't it would anyway have a listen , I hope I didn't waste anyone's time .

maybe you can pick up on something. one other thing i think if you listen at times you here my voice reverbing off the guitar,
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I heard harshness on the highest note you played that sounded to me that it was maybe fretting out on the next higher fret. But as far as harshness goes that was it.

There's a lot of sustain and harmonics from the body but that's not the problem you've been mentioning. You can lessen that by backing off the mic.

You're getting a lot of proximity effect (boominess, excessive low end) maybe because the mic is too close to the guitar or maybe because it's pointed right at the sound hole but that's also not the issue you've been referring to.

Sorry I can't be of more help. I'd suggest taking your guitar to a competent luthier in your area so someone can experience live and first hand what you're hearing.
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I heard harshness on the highest note you played that sounded to me that it was maybe fretting out on the next higher fret. But as far as harshness goes that was it.



There's a lot of sustain and harmonics from the body but that's not the problem you've been mentioning. You can lessen that by backing off the mic.



You're getting a lot of proximity effect (boominess, excessive low end) maybe because the mic is too close to the guitar or maybe because it's pointed right at the sound hole but that's also not the issue you've been referring to.



Sorry I can't be of more help. I'd suggest taking your guitar to a competent luthier in your area so someone can experience live and first hand what you're hearing.


Thanks , I know it’s hard to hear . The boominess is on the G string it has duller tone to for sure . The note that you heard the harshness about the 20th fret I think .

Harmonics and sustain could be part of the problem because they echo the harshness or the multiple harmonics and sustain are creating it . You heard the high pitch harmonic right ? They can ring on two strings and it’s pitch gets in the way of other picking notes while playing .

I think it’s a combination of it all best guess . [emoji58]

Taking to a luthier , I’d have to find one . The guy I used before is top notch but last time I was there he was less then caring and seems more interested in Martins then anything else . He did build but I don’t think he does anymore or ever built much .

Hmm .. I remember a building coarse offered I’ll try to contact that Luthier .

Ok thanks for your help and same to everyone else .

I’ll call the thread closed no sense beating a dead horse . Lol [emoji23]
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