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It sounds like it would be fine. If it were me, I’d ask Steinbeeg though before pulling the trigger.
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Low ohm headphones will offer you less detailed listening. That's a poor choice for mastering.
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Well that’s neat exclamation I didn’t know that. I knew that under powered headphones would have less volume and less detail, but I didn’t know the rest.
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I can't imagine using headphones for mastering. Note there probably isn't anyone on AGF that actually masters audio.
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I've been doing some mastering this past year. I'm fairly new to it but I've done my homework to understand the craft and the clients have been happy with the work I've returned to them. I use headphones to check things but 95-99% of my listening is through my monitors.
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I know it is a pretty stupid idea ... the phrase "fool's errand" comes to mind ...
But I figured, $175 gets me further in the headphone world than it does in monitors. $175 gets me a bass-heavy speaker. Seems like I'd need to be willing to spend $400-$600 to get a decent monitor sound, and that still seems like not enough cash. Maybe more so $1k and up.
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Headphone rated impedance has NOTHING to do with sound quality; it's simply a number that reflects the physical construction of the drivers.
Going with a lower-ohm headphone will generally result in higher volume, but that's not something that anyone should be shooting for. Higher volume from the output section of your interface can degrade the ability for it to provide good sound, so keep that it mind. It depends on the output section of whatever the phones are plugged into. Headphones are obviously not the best way to mix (or master) but could be preferred to inexpensive monitors or trying to mix in a room that has it's own problems with introducing odd response. I'd MUCH prefer to mix on good phones, but you DO have to know how it will translate to mixes pumped out through other audio systems. The most problematic issue with headphones is going to be stereo spread and imaging issues, so just keep that in mind. |
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Not according to things I've read about the subject.
For example: "The thinner wires have more windings (layers of wire) on the voice-coil than the lower-impedance Beyerdynamic headphones, which have thicker and heavier, easier-to-manufacture voice coils. The lower moving mass of the 250- and 600-ohm headphones’ voice coils is lighter than the 32-ohm models, and the lower mass is part of the reason high-impedance headphones sound better. The smaller diameter of the 600-ohm voice coil wires allows the wires to fit tighter, so there’s less air between the windings, and that makes the electromagnetic field of the voice coil stronger. All of that reduces distortion for the high-impedance versions compared with the low-impedance headphones."
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I've been using AKG K550 Monitor headphones for the last few years. They're supposed to give a flat response. I've been mastering at a very rudimentary level. They seem to work fine for me, but I'm only recording solo guitar.
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Low impedance wouldn't be the only reason to make a different choice. Those headphones are also closed back and that too makes them a less than ideal choice. That's not to say that a person CANNOT use them for mastering. Hell... you can master on earbuds if you want but will the end product be as good as it may have been had you mastered on quality studio monitors or even a pair of quality open-back headphones? Not likely.
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Not that anybody was dying to know, but...
I did grab a pair of DT-990 Pro 250 OHM from Amazon at a discounted price. Steinberg UR44 drives them A okay. Volume knob is at 50%, listening to Spotify/Youtube with the video fader at 100%. Plenty of volume, any louder and it would probably be bad for my ears. Really like how these headphones sound. Flat, with a bit of top end crispness. Stereo panning is really nice, great separation. I bet these would be really helpful for mixing vocals.
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Thanks for great content, AGF!
Just ordered the 80 Ohm DT770s! |
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Both the Beyerdynamic DT 990 and Hifiman HE-400I are excellent headphones. Either would serve you well at that price point. I'd suggest also picking up a pair of cheap closed back over-the-ear headphones for tracking for the reasons already given. Sennheiser HD 280 and Sony MDR-7506 are popular choices that don't break the bank. I also agree that mixing and mastering solely on headphones is going to be difficult and it's never ideal.
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