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Old 04-21-2018, 09:12 AM
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For the Benefit of all of us looking for the "Best Pick-up" Rig..........Watch from the beginning.

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Old 04-21-2018, 11:38 AM
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For the Benefit of all of us looking for the "Best Pick-up" Rig..........Watch from the beginning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbbcYC5mMQM&t=1089s
Whenever I hear "David Wilcox" I instantly think of the blues/rock guitarist. I grew up in Canada so David Wilcox is on the radio every fifth song. I don't know this David Wilcox well but I agree and disagree. I do think you sometimes need more than one system but this is a bit overkill. I think we are at the stage where systems like the Anthem, Tonedexter etc can get us so close that there's no real reason to modify a guitar to this extent.

I will say this though, I completely agree with his philosophy on using the best guitar for the job, which doesn't always necessarily mean your most prized guitar. There's something to be said for artists like Eric Johnson and Tommy Emmanuel who could own any acoustic they want but choose Maton for live us. Their tones are consistently great.
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:04 PM
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Fantastic video, thanks for posting that!


Did he have that laugh before he went down ‘Pickup Road’?



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Old 04-21-2018, 08:13 PM
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IMHO....David Wilcox is a wonderful guitar player, excellent song writer, a "must see whenever possible" performer and a master of all tunings. He has a great sense of humor and is - I suppose - a bit quirky to some...and has an extremely unique laugh! He has the best plugged in acoustic sound I've ever heard live when he plays his Olson guitar, and his Rainsong is fabulous as well.

He definitely has gone down the "rabbit hole" of mastering the acoustic guitar sound plugged in....I can only dream...
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He should try the Tonedexter :-)
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He should try the Tonedexter :-)


Ha Ha ....


But that would mean he would have to start over with gulp.........one pickup for Tonedexter...

Imagine his cackle laugh then!


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Old 04-22-2018, 06:18 PM
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He doesn’t even describe the pickup. This was a pretty pointless waste of time.
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IMHO....David Wilcox is a wonderful guitar player, excellent song.................! He has the best plugged in acoustic sound I've ever heard live when he plays his Olson guitar, and his Rainsong is fabulous as well.

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I saw him live a couple of times and I agree his Olsen sounds amazing. The rain song sound great as well. In addition to his guitar electronics he did have a pencil style condenser mic that he blended in.
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He doesn’t even describe the pickup. This was a pretty pointless waste of time.
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Blending in a mic as well?
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If you watch from the beginning, he describes his pickup (s) in great detail. He uses at least 5 different pickups, and as stated by a previous person, will often add a mic out in front of his guitar as well. IMO, he has the best plugged in acoustic sound I've had the opportunity to hear live...When he plays his Olson plugged in, it sounds like his Olson unplugged, only louder.

I've never tried a Tonedexter, but I have heard another guitar player use one in a live, single performer concert setting with a Martin 00-28. IMHO, the Tonedexter was very nice, but did not rise anywhere near to the level of "natural tone" of Wilcox's plugged in Olson.

And of course, this is just my view through my ears...
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If you watch from the beginning, he describes his pickup (s) in great detail. He uses at least 5 different pickups, and as stated by a previous person, will often add a mic out in front of his guitar as well. IMO, he has the best plugged in acoustic sound I've had the opportunity to hear live...When he plays his Olson plugged in, it sounds like his Olson unplugged, only louder.

I've never tried a Tonedexter, but I have heard another guitar player use one in a live, single performer concert setting with a Martin 00-28. IMHO, the Tonedexter was very nice, but did not rise anywhere near to the level of "natural tone" of Wilcox's plugged in Olson.

And of course, this is just my view through my ears...
I am not super familiar with Wilcox but I did watch a handful of videos. He's quite talented and enjoyable to watch. In almost every video though, I heard a faint but noticeable buzz coming from his guitar. I wonder if it's the sound hole pickup? He looks to use an external mic so of course his guitar will sound even better than the TD. I have been experimenting with the TD and I think for an all in one solution, it's about as good as it gets.
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The Doc, thank you for posting this video! He is certainly clever and has a great sound. The fret marker lights are great!
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The Doc, thank you for posting this video! He is certainly clever and has a great sound. The fret marker lights are great!


Yes, I thought the fret marker lights was the most useful addition!
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:50 PM
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I listened to this with very good headphones and cannot understand why he needs all those pickups to sound like this. Some people just love complicated little tiny pieces of experience and gear and small bytes of tone, and lots of them, to feel that they are doing something useful. Not me. But I do love awesome tone and I have that in spades with a dual source system.
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