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Old 11-20-2018, 06:15 PM
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Default 614ce w ES1... metal plate under bridge???

I've got a 2011 614ce with the ES1 system. It's got an under-neck pickup and two body pickups (I think... I could only see one with a mirror).

I had the inclination to try to look for the body sensors with a mirror, but when I peaked under the hood I was really surprised to see a metal plate with the ball ends of the strings and bridge pins protruding through. It appears that a ground wire is attached to it, which would explain why it's there, but all this time I thought the ball ends were butted up against wood underneath the bridge.

How did I miss this? I wonder how the metal plate transfers vibrations and changes the tone (not that I'm complaining or really need to know). But I do know that I really got a big improvement in sound when I changed the TUSQ saddle to bone.

Just bringing this up for discussion. Anyone else not realize the metal plate was there on ES1? [Sorry I couldn't get the plate in focus, but you can see what I'm seeing anyway.]
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:15 PM
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Looks like a Plate mate. Its purpose is to reinforce or act as an upgrade to the bridge plate.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:34 PM
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It's an electrical ground plate, part of the pickup system. There is probably a special "slow-blow" fuse in there too to protect from electrical shock. A little research on the Taylor web site will fill in the blanks.
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I stand corrected! I just looked into a 2013 Taylor 455ce with ES1.2 and it has that same plate. The wire from the plate runs to the end pin jack.
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:34 AM
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Looks like a Plate mate.
Would function as one though I guess? Thats quite fortunate for OP and whoever else has the metal plates under
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Bob Taylor has mentioned this quite a few times in videos when the he claimed the ES-1 was the greatest acoustic guitar pickup system ever known to man (of course that was before they invented the ES-2). The magnetic pickup could potentially create an electronic hazard to the guitar player when coupled with the steel strings. To prevent this, the grounding plate is set it place.
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Yep. 'Fused string ground'. More detail here:

https://www.mooreguitars.com/taylor-...ion-system-es/
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:01 PM
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Looks like a Plate mate. Its purpose is to reinforce or act as an upgrade to the bridge plate.
I have to suspect that the wire coming from the plate is a ground wire, must like you see on Stratocaters and other electric guitars. What other purpose would it have? But the ball ends are snugged up against it so I suppose it would serve unintentionally to protect the bridge from string wear. But I have to wonder if it has any impact on the sound, not that I'm complaining. But if one were to try to install a Power Pin set, would you need to use their plate in addition to the one that's on the guitar?
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