High E falling off my Taylor 214CE

[rabbuhl]

I had the body replaced on my 214CE due to a finish defect. I then kept trying to bond with it and realized I did not like Elixir strings. A change to Thomastik Infeld Plectrum solved the problem. The new issue is the high E falls off easily. When I look at the saddle the distance between the high E and the B string is a bit more than between the other strings. Should the saddle be replaced to fit it? Is this normal for a Taylor?

[phavriluk]

Ask Taylor.

[JonWint]

Loosen E string. Move it closer to the B string on the saddle. Tune E string.

[Howard Klepper]

The issue is not your saddle. The E string is not in its slot in the bridge.

[rabbuhl]

Originally Posted by phavriluk

Ask Taylor.

Already called them. I can make an appointment for next week.

Originally Posted by JonWint

Loosen E string. Move it closer to the B string on the saddle. Tune E string.

Tried that. It seems to move back to equilibrium point so not a solution.

[maxtheaxe]

Do you mean that the string slips off the fretboard while you play? I've picked up many guitars where the string slot in the nut can be too close to the edge of the fingerboard...it doesn't take much. If this is the case, it needs a properly string-spaced nut.

Another issue I see occasionally is that the fret-ends have been overly 'hot-dogged' or beveled too steeply, where the bevel is right under the string and it slips off the board when it's fretted.

[John Arnold]

The E string is not in its slot in the bridge.

+1

Loosen the string, pull the bridge pin and relocate the string in the slot.
Unless you cut notches in the saddle, the saddle does not determine string spacing. That is determined by the pin spacing and string slots or ramps. Not all bridges have these slots, but when they do, you need to make sure the string is in the slot.

[JonWint]

Originally Posted by rabbuhl

Tried that. It seems to move back to equilibrium point so not a solution.

Put a small "nick" in the saddle where you want it positioned. You can use a knife or file.

[John Arnold]

Just to be clear, the 'bridge' is the black ebony part. The 'saddle' is the white part. In your photo, the string is not in the slot on the 'bridge'. Move it over, and the spacing will be uniform.
Nothing wrong with the guitar and there is no need to notch the saddle.

[JonWint]

I see it now...….

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[rabbuhl]

Originally Posted by JonWint

I see it now...….

Sharp eye. Good catch!! My bad.

Does the high E does seem to be spaced a bit wider than the rest?

It does play better now.

[phavriluk]

I suggest OP measure the string displacements at the nut. There's a variety of layout schemes in use. For example, some nuts are laid out so that the center-to-center dimensions are evenly spaced, another evens out the air gaps between the strings which means that center-to-center distance is highest at E/a, least at e/b.

[redir]

Good eye Howard.

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You had the body replaced? Interesting.

[rabbuhl]

Originally Posted by phavriluk

I suggest OP measure the string displacements at the nut. There's a variety of layout schemes in use. For example, some nuts are laid out so that the center-to-center dimensions are evenly spaced, another evens out the air gaps between the strings which means that center-to-center distance is highest at E/a, least at e/b.

Can you explain?

Originally Posted by redir

Good eye Howard.

You had the body replaced? Interesting.

Yeah, Taylor agreed there was a finish defect.

[jrodriguezcros]

Originally Posted by redir

You had the body replaced? Interesting.

I also thought that was strange. You mean they took the neck, put it on another body and give it back to you? I guess that's easier with Taylors, as they are bolt on necks... but even so...