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09-11-2002, 10:12 AM
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a guitaristic direction...
go back to the two note lick...just C to B 4 beats on each. the memory game...the memory game... there is something to say for repeated repetition.... ? that sounds redundantly redundant.... ?? how many ways can you play B to C on the guitar? (I DO NOT merely mean how many different physical locations do they pop up at) hmmmmmmm......
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#32
09-12-2002, 08:32 AM
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whoops...meant to say How many ways can you play the notes C to B on the guitar?...
an aside... learning that fretboard...not difficult...try to keep in mind.... there are only 12 darn notes....I mean...gee whiz...that's not a big number...... true, they pop up in different physical locations.. true, you need to learn the different roles that any particular note might play...for example the note A could represent: the root of an A major chord or the lowered 7th of a B dominant chord or the 9th of a G dominant chord etc etc etc... etc...etc...etc.. but again, there's only twelve of them... now, let me ask you something... Q? How do you become 'familiar' with a town or city or the like...?
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#33
09-12-2002, 08:40 AM
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obviously there could be different answers that qualify as 'good' answers....
I don't think anyone could argue that the following is not a good answer: Just go there and start having experiences there. That's simple, I think...and might tell you more about the city than sitting 987 miles away and reading about the city in a book.... now just go back to the notes C and B... could do this anywhere on the fretboard...
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09-12-2002, 08:54 AM
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again without getting into too deeply..
the D#dim7 as xx1212 which is just a combination of the notes D#, F#, A, and C could be slid up a minor 3rd (3 frets worth) to xx4545 and it would still just be a collection of the notes D#, F#, A, and C....it's still a D#dim7...could call it other things... slide it up another minor 3rd (3 frets worth again) and we'd come to xx7878...which is still just a collection of the notes D#, F#, A, and C....still the same chord... refinger with a barre that last version with a bass note B at the 7th fret of the sixth string like this... 7x7878.....which is a B7b9 chord now....the diminished chord on the high four strings was really just representing the upper fiddly-bits of a B7b9 chord that wants to resolve to the much more pleasant sounding Emin chord...play the Emin as follows.. 0xx987 onward onward onward...
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09-12-2002, 09:03 AM
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fiddly-bits...naughty-bits.....behave yourself...
just go to one location where the notes C and B pop up...
gonna pick xxxxx8 for the note C and xxxxx7 for the note B... now go to town... ha. that's a joke. ok. what oh what are some of the ways you play those two notes out... here's one way.... play xxxxx8 for 4 beats with no expression followed by xxxxx7 for 4 beats with no expression... here's another way... play xxxxx7 bent to xxxxx(8) for 4 beats followed by xxxxx7 for 4 beats...let that bend bleed down....let it bleed.. repeat that...repeat that...repeat that...repeat that...only takes a few seconds...foot stomping out the rhythm what other ways...? con't...
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09-12-2002, 09:10 AM
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to reiterate....there are only 12 notes...if we can learn where just two of them are....that's one-sixth of all there are...let's not make this tuff on ourselves...
if we bumble about and don't really commit anything to memory...well, there's still 12 to learn...that doesn't sound like progress.... how long would it take to play the last lick 10 times? not too long....no breaks...keep the foot stomping....repeat, repeat, repeat... geepers...careful...you might wear out you quick-wearing Taylor frets. It's a joke folks. what other ways could you play it? Electric and acoustic might offer different options.... what about xxxxx8 for 4 beats...followed by xxxxx5 bent a whole step to the note B as xxxxx(7)...repeat repeat repeat...only takes seconds to repeat it over and over and over..... start using language... Q? What's the difference between you and a bonobo?
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09-12-2002, 09:18 AM
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A. He's got more fuzzy stuff than you and you've got more of a capacity for language than him.
Not much else. Religion fight! Food fight!  Seriously, though...our capacity for language is one of our most defining characteristics... don't act primitive.... seriously... didn't Chris Proctor say your practicing should drive other people out of the house? If he didn't say it I'm saying it... tenthumbs, did you say your dog was your only audience....talk to him...you do that all the time, right?...sometimes he may give the Hertz (Avis?) Molly "not exactly" growlspeak...but he'll listen... get in the habit of saying in English (whatever language) EXACTLY what the heck you are doing... for example... con't...
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#39
09-12-2002, 09:28 AM
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gotta run...how many ways...how many ways...there's a bunch more...a whole big bunch...be back...
how about xxxxx7 bent to xxxxx(8) for 4 beats followed by a grace note slide from xxxxx5 to xxxxx7.... how many ways...how many ways...we'll get back to the language thing... is it easy to memorize the names of the notes if you repeat them 100 times in a few minutes? yes...will it be easy to memorize the role of the notes in this example... by the way...are you developing the ability to play exactly what you mean to play if you start doing what I've described above? If you mean to tell someone "I'll meet you at 8 am on Tuesday" do you say "I'll meet you at 3pm on Wednesday"...walk away...reconsider clarifying...and then say to yourself...oh, I guess that was sort of close enough.. get in the habit of saying exactly what you mean to say while the material is SIMPLE... con't...
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09-12-2002, 07:24 PM
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sorry sorry sorry didn't see that when I was posting...
yes the x just means avoid and/or mute out... x32010 is a standard open position C chord... x3201x is a standard open position C7 chord with the outside strings muted or muted and/or avoided....
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09-12-2002, 07:42 PM
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the language thing....
let's say you're repeating one of those *admittedly* simple two note licks... let's say you're doing C to B this way.... bend the note A xxxxx5 up three fret's worth to the note C at xxxxx(8) for 4 beats and then release just a half-step so you then have the note A xxxxx5 bent to the note B xxxxx(7) for 4 beats... more of an electric guitar move....have you got a Tele?...I mean, do you have an electric?....don't rip your acoustic top and bridge apart..... where were we...language say what you're doing...say it out loud for crying out loud...enthusiasm in all things and not a darn bit of moderation in anything......say to your dog "got the A bent a minor 3rd to C... weeza gonna let it bleed down a half-step to B, Floppy Ears....are you widjmeee? get the foot pounding and do it...do it again with no break in the rhythm....no rhythm no music....again again again... "There's the C....(pound pound pound)...there's the B...Whoooz yer daddy Floppy?....(pound pound pound out the rhythm and keep repeating....only takes seconds....get your hands to do what you want them to do...say what your doing....memorize what you're doing...) woof woof woof... how long does it take to memorize the location of C and B in that area?....are you learning where A is for free?.... con't...
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09-12-2002, 07:53 PM
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not learning where C and B are yet...thick as a brick?
play 'em a different way and do it repeatedly....tell the pooch what your doing... many different ways....simple ways, complicated ways...all useful ways.... octave slides? play the note(s) C as xxx5x8 for 4 beats to the note(s) B as xxx4x7 for 4 beats.... do it over and over a few times...pound pound pound.... butchering it? Good. Wahoo and wonderful. Tell the pooch about it..."We ain't ready for octave slides, Floppy....weeeezza going back to something simpler, Floppy....(woof woof woof)....and where are we going, Floppy?....where do we always go, Floppy? (woof woof woof)...your such a good boy...such a good good boy...(thump thump thump goes the tail)....youza knowz it, Floppy...which notes were we playing, Floppy? (woof woof woof) con't....
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09-12-2002, 08:07 PM
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pound pound pound...
that's right, Floppy...there's our C...where's Daddy's B?...that's right ....(woof woof woof) "What the *&&))&^ing &^%^%$##%^ are you two doing in there?" Nothing, honey.... plain old C no expression to plain old B no expression 4 beats each...over and over and over....only takes a matter of seconds... "we know where that C and B are don't we, Floppy? pound pound pound, woof woof woof... here's C and B with no expression, Floppy....repeat repeat repeat......woof woof woof... now here it is like SRV, Floppy...you ready Floppy? woof woof woof... rake across the lower muted strings and slam that C...let it ring for 4 beats.... rake the bejeezus out of those lower muted strings and and slam into that B and let it ring out for 4 beats... repeat a couple times and repeat then a couple times with no expression...SAY what you are doing..."here's C with no expression...here's B with no expression...now you ready Floppy? go back to the rakes....over and over... do rakes with grace note hammer-ons... do rakes with various bends... are you learning where the notes are yet? woof...
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09-12-2002, 08:21 PM
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have you ever watched a little-league baseball game?
have you ever seen a little-leage 2nd baseman move to their left to field a ground ball (hesitant and head pulling away, nervous, frantic)..they manage to field it...bobble it...drop it...kick it by accident...the ball rolls a bit closer to first base...they pick it up...they are about 4 inches from the first baseman by now... the batter hasn't even left the batter's box yet....hasn't yet figured out when you run and when you don't...crazy game... and what does our 2nd baseman do (remember, he's got another 45 seconds before the batter makes it to first base...he's got all the time in the world to get that ball to the first baseman......and he's only 4 inches away.....).... well, of course, he faster than a major leaguer throws that ball as if he's got to throw it 550 feet....hurls it right out into that Youth Group van windshield.... mmmmmm......
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