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Old 05-22-2018, 06:29 PM
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OP, I use no pedals or a pickup when I busk or gig.
Apparently that's the only gear you're asking about.

I use this clip-on DPA guitar mic on my acoustic.
It's so accurate that needs no pedals to make it sound natural.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...lip-for-guitar
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New?
Even pricier than the predecessor
Rather pay less for a regular sized mic on a stand.
If there is one with the same performance.
Okay.
Me? When performing I hate being handcuffed to a mic stand.
Move just an inch and the guitar sounds different.
The DPA clip-on is in front of the soundboard in a stationary position for consistent sound when you move around.
Nice.

BTW the new model, which DPA calls "Core", is not (as you state) "pricier than the predecessor".
Apparently you just assumed it must cost more since DPA advertises it as an improved model.
I have the previous model, and it was also exactly $619.
I can't imagine how it is possible for mine to sound better, but DPA is probably right.
Isn't it cool if DPA really did improve it but kept the price the same?

Even if there was a price increase (there wasn't) so what?
All companies raise prices from time to time especially when they upgrade a product.

Don't like it?
Don't buy it.
Why poo poo the DPA here?

After using mine over a year my DPA has made me a passionate and devoted convert and I will share the good news here.
I'm astonished more people don't try them; I'm nearly alone in posting about them here.
What's $619 after paying thousands of dollars for only one of several high end guitars that many AGF members post that they have, especially because the same DPA can be moved between every guitar you own?

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Old 05-22-2018, 09:28 PM
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Here I am, all packed up for the gig, all this gear to haul around!

The struggle is real...

Gee, I hope you filled out the form for the free Bose backpack so it will help you carry all that.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:29 PM
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For my acoustic solo gigs, which is what I really try to do exclusively.....Gibson Hummingbird Pro, with a Baggs Element pickup (came in the guitar new) into a TC Helicon Play Acoustic, into my Fishman SA 330. For one huge Patio gig, it's L shaped, I set the Fishstick forward of me and set my Loudbox Mini to my left pointed at the short side of the patio which is to my right so it doubles as a monitor for me, and sound for the smaller portion of that patio.

For normal gigs I set the Fishstick behind me and to my left. Works great, great sound, plenty loud, and no monitor necessary. I also sing and blow harps through my Beta 58, into that Play Acoustic and of course into the Fishman SA330.

I should mention, with all humility, that I get a lot of compliments on my sound from other musicians. I changed all my equipment in the last 18 months, after reading a lot on this forum. Well all but cables, and that Beta 58.
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Old 05-23-2018, 04:19 AM
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Many a time: guitar > fishman solo amp

Other times: (not necessarily in that order)
guitar > boss ad10 > jamman stereo looper > neunaber stereo wet reverb >fishman stereo delay > digitech trio+ > digitech rp355 > a&h zedi10fx > Yamaha pwr speakers.

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Old 05-23-2018, 07:42 AM
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Okay.
Me? When performing I hate being handcuffed to a mic stand.
Move just an inch and the guitar sounds different.
The DPA clip-on is in front of the soundboard in a stationary position for consistent sound when you move around.
Nice.

BTW the new model, which DPA calls "Core", is not (as you state) "pricier than the predecessor".
Apparently you just assumed it must cost more since DPA advertises it as an improved model.
I have the previous model, and it was also exactly $619.
I can't imagine how it is possible for mine to sound better, but DPA is probably right.
Isn't it cool if DPA really did improve it but kept the price the same?

Even if there was a price increase (there wasn't) so what?
All companies raise prices from time to time especially when they upgrade a product.

Don't like it?
Don't buy it.
Why poo poo the DPA here?

After using mine over a year my DPA has made me a passionate and devoted convert and I will share the good news here.
I'm astonished more people don't try them; I'm nearly alone in posting about them here.
What's $619 after paying thousands of dollars for only one of several high end guitars that many AGF members post that they have, especially because the same DPA can be moved between every guitar you own?
I have seen them going for less...
What's the difference between the 2?
A lot of people see the clip-on add as unrealiable. Having to even tape the clip-on to keep it in place.
It seems they didn't change that.
For me it's easier to play comfortably seated and just change guitars without moving the mic.
If I ever buy one, I would put it on a regular stand.
Just seeking some more info...
Other than the clip-on side of things...
Is this mic better for recording and have better feedback resistance than say a shure sm81 or akg c 451 b?
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Old 05-23-2018, 11:27 AM
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I have seen them going for less...
What's the difference between the 2?
I don't know what the "core" improvement is, but you can look it up on DPA's website.
I've no interest in 'upgrading' mine so didn't bother.
If I may ask which vendor was selling it for less?
When I shopped every source had the exact same price, much like Martin's MAP.
I wonder if someone advertising for less is legit or an authorized DPA dealer, or if it might have been stolen or used.
Anyway I'd love to know the name of a source with better prices; PM me if you wish.

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A lot of people see the clip-on add as unrealiable. Having to even tape the clip-on to keep it in place.
It seems they didn't change that.
Yes, I've posted that several times here on AGF.
I even posted a pic of the gaffer tape on mine.
See post # 3 of this thread:

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=496091

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For me it's easier to play comfortably seated and just change guitars without moving the mic.
If I ever buy one, I would put it on a regular stand.
I imagine much of the $619 went into the research/engineering/manufacturing under microscopes that was required to miniaturize it while keeping the studio quality DPA is legendary for in their full sized mics.
That would mean putting it on a stand instead of clipping it onto the guitar would waste some of that $619.
Likely a full sized mic would be a better choice for the money. [/QUOTE]

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Is this mic better for recording and have better feedback resistance than say a shure sm81 or akg c 451 b?
I don't know.
But I do know it's a shotgun design with a narrow pick up pattern, which means extremely high rejection of off-axis sound.
This translates to what they call higher gain before feedback.

Also, the further a mic is from the sound source the more the gain must be turned up.
Higher gain moves you closer to the feedback threshold.
When clipped on the DPA is (and stays) only a couple inches from the soundboard.
Also it staying in the tonal sweet spot as I move around is like gold for this performer, even when I'm sitting down.
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:23 PM
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Here I am, all packed up for the gig, all this gear to haul around!

The struggle is real...

That's compact! What types of gigs do you play?
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:47 PM
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That's compact! What types of gigs do you play?
We are the regular house band at a local restaurant called Fresh Vibes Cafe. Good sized place to play. We play every weekend alternating Saturday evening dinner one weekend and Sunday morning brunch the next. We also play open mics and have some farmer's markets, craft shows and plan to do some beach and downtown busking in the upcoming summer months.
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:37 PM
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We are the regular house band at a local restaurant called Fresh Vibes Cafe. Good sized place to play. We play every weekend alternating Saturday evening dinner one weekend and Sunday morning brunch the next. We also play open mics and have some farmer's markets, craft shows and plan to do some beach and downtown busking in the upcoming summer months.
My rooftop patio gig would have been perfect for that Bose earlier tonight. My Line 6 L3T was way overkill. I barely had it turned up at all! I had one of the kids from the kitchen carry it up to the upstairs patio and back down at the end, but I'd love something small that sounds great for those gigs.
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:48 AM
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My rooftop patio gig would have been perfect for that Bose earlier tonight. My Line 6 L3T was way overkill. I barely had it turned up at all! I had one of the kids from the kitchen carry it up to the upstairs patio and back down at the end, but I'd love something small that sounds great for those gigs.
My S1 has been plenty for the gigs we play. I had initial concerns about whether it would be loud enough, but have had plenty of headroom left so far. Like with many Bose systems I find I can get a well dispersed clean sound at lower volume than when I've used a traditional amp (In my case, Loudbox Artist).
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:52 AM
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My S1 has been plenty for the gigs we play. I had initial concerns about whether it would be loud enough, but have had plenty of headroom left so far. Like with many Bose systems I find I can get a well dispersed clean sound at lower volume than when I've used a traditional amp (In my case, Loudbox Artist).
I loop beats and basslines, so I wonder if I'd run out of headroom quickly.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:36 AM
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I have a Takamine F365s Jumbo (1974 copy of a Guild F50) fitted with a B-band UST and A1.2 end pin preamp. Goes in direct into a Genz Benz Shen 100. I lightly use the Chorus/Plate combined preset on the amp. The sound is nothing but special. Have just picked up a Diamond CPR-1 pedal to see if it can add anything more - the quest for pefection is endless!
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:29 AM
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I've constantly been searching for a bulletproof, simple, and robust system. I go through lots of gear options. But the most recent one looks like it'll be with me a good while. I'm back to using the LR Baggs M1A. I've tried the M80, but think it has more zing sound to the high notes. . . . , I HATE zing !

So, I'm back to the M1A. But the funnest part is I just got a LR Baggs Session DI. And I love it. Very versatile power setup. It can run on a 9 V battery, or a plug-in wall wart. PLUS, it'll also run off phontom power from a sound board, if you use the XLR out option. It has the XLR out and 1/4" out, if you're walking into an open mic type setting where they hand you a 1/4" cable.

But best of all are the function Knobs. It has 2 FX; Saturation, and Compression. The Saturation models in an analog signal type warmth. And the Compression takes the edge off the highs, and boosts the quiet notes. Together they give a nice fatter warmer acoustic sound than a pickup by itself. Taming the beast.

So, for sound enhancement and simple versatility, it just works wonderfully.

PS - there are Gain and Volume controls too. Those are pretty self explanatory.

It doesn't have other FX like reverb or modeling, or EQ. Though there's a High Pass Filter switch that lets you filter the signal to a balance that pleases you more. But I don't miss the reverb, because every place I go into has a different sound system. And there's usually some reverb or FX that gets applied. And a reverb on a reverb is not a pretty thing. So, I feel I'm better off not messing with any of that.

There's also a mute button, so you can tune separately. Or swap out different guitars. It doesn't have an on board tuner. But there are many cool separate tuners on the market. I don't miss that.

PSPS - The Session also has a notch filter for feedback. Though I don't use it. And it has a polarity button.

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Old 05-25-2018, 01:08 PM
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Acoustic rigs-Rainsong CH-OM into Zoom G3 for eq, delay and looper...

...into a Fishman Loudbox Artist up on a stand for smaller gigs OR

...into Behringer Xenyx 1202 mixer into 2 JBL Eon10's up on stands for larger gigs.

Sennheiser 835 mic for vocals.

Electric rig- Fender Telecaster or Epi Casino into EHX SoulFood, into Mooer Baby Water delay into EHX 720 looper into Roland Blues Cube 30 (which replaced my Blues Jr)
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Old 05-25-2018, 03:38 PM
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I'm sort of a lunatic. I don't always use the sub & crossover. Even when I do, I use my volume knob to keep things in check. Rarely get any volume complaints.

2016 Gibson J-45 Standard
Washburn Timber Ridge Custom
Fishman Prefix Premium Blend Pickups in both.
DR Pro Mic Stand.
Heil PR 35 Vocal Mic.
TC Electronics Harmony Singer Pedal
Boss OC-3 Octave Pedal
Boomerang III Digital Looper
Aphex Acoustic Xciter Direct Box
Fire-Eye Red-Eye Preamp
Allen & Heath Zed10FX Mixer
Allen & Heath Zed60 14FX Mixer (if I need more channels)
QSC Touchmix 16 (for running my weekly open mic and sound for my band)
Line 6 L3T Powered Speaker (FOH)
Line 6 L2M Powered Speaker (Monitor)
Line 6 L2T Powered Speaker (If I need more coverage or an additional monitor)
DBX 223XS Active Crossover.
Yorkville NX720s 15" Powered Subwoofer.
EV ZXA1 12" Powered Subwoofer (for smaller rooms)
I don't use both subs together. Just one depending on room size.
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