The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Classical

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-01-2011, 10:01 AM
Booswalia Booswalia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 20
Default Unique Classical

Hi,
Just new to the group and I have a question that someone here might be able to answer for me.

I have this Flambeau classical guitar that I bought in 1986 that has what looks like saw marks on it but I'm not sure... (see the photo below) I only paid about $350 for it. It has the sweetest sound ever and just keeps getting better with age. My question is... Are these saw marks or are they something else?

FYI: Flambeau was a brand that was designed by George Lowden and made by a small group of luthiers in Japan for about 5 years.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-01-2011, 12:09 PM
Kitchen Guitars's Avatar
Kitchen Guitars Kitchen Guitars is offline
Formerly Yamaha Junkie
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: South West Pennsylvania
Posts: 7,930
Default

The horizontal lines? I would say they are a shadow from the blinds in the window. The vertical lines are the grain of the wood. BTW Welcome to the forum.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-01-2011, 01:05 PM
Joeval Joeval is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 67
Default

Can you point out these "saw marks"?

I can't see anything immediately wrong with it... Enjoy your instrument!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-01-2011, 01:44 PM
Booswalia Booswalia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 20
Default

Thanks, but the horizontal lines are not from the blinds. Those are in the the wood on the guitar and, yes, they are THAT visible. They have darkened quite a bit over the years. When I first got the guitar you could hardly see them.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-01-2011, 02:36 PM
charles Tauber charles Tauber is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 8,381
Default

based solely on the photo, my first inclination would be to look inside the guitar and see if the coloration coincides with the position of interior bracing.

Without a closeup or seeing it in person, can't tell you much more.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-01-2011, 03:04 PM
Booswalia Booswalia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 20
Default

I had a look and no, it does not coincide with the bracing inside.
__________________
Taylor GC8
Gibson Blues King
Otis Tomas steel string
Flambeau LFG-4 classical
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-01-2011, 03:13 PM
Booswalia Booswalia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 20
Default

Here's a closeup of it.

__________________
Taylor GC8
Gibson Blues King
Otis Tomas steel string
Flambeau LFG-4 classical
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-01-2011, 03:31 PM
arie arie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,728
Default

possibly chatter/burn marks from a thickness sander. maybe the feed belt wasn't moving properly and caused some momentary and incremental stalling while the drum was still sanding.

or a BBQ grill!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-01-2011, 03:55 PM
Booswalia Booswalia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 20
Default

LOL! I knew I shouldn't have sat it on the BBQ.

What ever they are... they don't interfere with the sound and I won't be parting with this little gem.
__________________
Taylor GC8
Gibson Blues King
Otis Tomas steel string
Flambeau LFG-4 classical
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-02-2011, 04:32 AM
lennylux lennylux is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,441
Default

No, it's OK, these were made from the extremely rare Japanese Zebra tree. This is totally normal when using such an exotic wood selection. ;-)

Looks cool. Enjoy.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-02-2011, 04:34 AM
rbbambino rbbambino is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 889
Default

The comment about the blinds is interesting. I have my guitars hanging on the wall... The afternoon sun comes through the window and shines on them... so I close the blinds.. most days... However, if I forgot, it would probably bleach the wood and my guitar(s) would take on the same look as your guitar. I must be more careful!!
__________________
Guitars:
Eastman AC710, Eastman E10P, Stonebridge GS23-CR, Gibson Chet Atkins CEC/CE, Sigma 000MC-1STE
Retired and in search of a happy ending.. but not soon!!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-02-2011, 04:43 AM
Booswalia Booswalia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 20
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rbbambino View Post
The comment about the blinds is interesting. I have my guitars hanging on the wall... The afternoon sun comes through the window and shines on them... so I close the blinds.. most days... However, if I forgot, it would probably bleach the wood and my guitar(s) would take on the same look as your guitar. I must be more careful!!
Unless you want that look.
__________________
Taylor GC8
Gibson Blues King
Otis Tomas steel string
Flambeau LFG-4 classical
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-02-2011, 05:26 AM
drive-south drive-south is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 4,628
Default

Perhaps the guitar sat in an open window for an extended period of time and the blinds caused shadows that resulted in some areas being tanned and others remaining light.

Or it could be a type of subtle bear-claw grain figuring.

I'm leaning towards the window/blind explanation.
__________________
"Vintage taste, reissue budget"
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-02-2011, 05:45 AM
Booswalia Booswalia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 20
Default

If it was caused by blinds on a window it would have happened at the factory because they have been there right from the start. I suppose that's possible but kind of unlikely.

Perhaps I should ask George himself. Maybe he know.
__________________
Taylor GC8
Gibson Blues King
Otis Tomas steel string
Flambeau LFG-4 classical
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-02-2011, 07:56 AM
arie arie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,728
Default

yeah, i'm not buying the blind thing -the pattern is too symmetrical. you'd have to plant the guitar squarely behind them for a long time to do that damage. it's a little hard to tell from the pix, but do the marks continue across the rosette?
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Classical

Thread Tools





All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=