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It might be more accurate to say it was the evolution of a series of attempts to amplifi the sound of acoustic string instruments by a number of people. Arguably Adolph Rickenbacher had as much to do with the invention of the electric guitar of today , as anybody.
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It's supposed to be a musical instrument, not a medical instrument or whatever that is.
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So, I believe it's safe to say it is an American instrument which has African roots.
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I suppose the answer to this question depends on exactly what is meant by original. For instance, Native American flutes were predated by similar flue instruments in other parts of the world, but there is no evidence I have found to suggest that they were copied or evolved from those elsewhere. So in that sense, perhaps they are original.
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I'm up with accepting Native American flutes to the club . Odd that I didn't consider them . I own 2 of them .
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If you're more of a visual person than a written word person, you can go here and view patent application drawings. https://www.google.com/search?q=leo+...scWFIhV8zquvM: Patents by Inventor C. Leo Fender C. Leo Fender filed for patents to protect the following inventions. (USPTO). Moisture-free electromagnetic pickup for an electrical musical instrument of the stringed type Patent number: 4885970 Abstract: A pickup assembly for an electrical musical instrument is dipped in a hot wax bath in order to remove air pockets from the assembly. The resultant assembly provides consistent tonal characteristics despite humidity changes. Type: Grant Filed: July 31, 1987 Date of Patent: December 12, 1989 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Saddle assembly for guitar vibrato unit Patent number: 4867031 Abstract: An improved saddle assembly for a guitar having a vibrato bridge assembly is disclosed. The improved saddle assembly has two parallel legs joined by a shoulder portion, one of the legs being longer than the other and the shoulder portion being provided with opposing string support grooves. The radius of curvature of the support grooves is larger than the radius of the largest guitar string, and the sides of the support groove are flared. The saddle assembly is reversible for positioning on the guitar so that the longer saddle assembly leg is closer to the centerline of the guitar neck, thereby providing a centering action and sustaining the guitar string upon flatting. Type: Grant Filed: May 13, 1988 Date of Patent: September 19, 1989 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Neck for guitar Patent number: 4803906 Abstract: An electric guitar having a body and a neck that supports a fret board is provided with a neck that removably fits into a slot in the body. The guitar neck is constructed so that the portion of the mounting portion of the neck that fits into the body slot is of constant dimension, regardless of the fret board width, while the remaining portion of the mounting end is as wide as the fret board. Type: Grant Filed: September 15, 1986 Date of Patent: February 14, 1989 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Tuning system for vibrato guitar with string lock Patent number: 4724737 Abstract: A guitar having a vibrato bridge assembly and a string lock mechanism for locking the strings at the intersection of the head and neck is provided with a fine-tuning mechanism on the bridge assembly. The tuning mechanism includes tuning knob elevator screws which are generally perpendicular to the face of the body of the guitar and which are easily accessible. Rotation of the tuning knob screws is coupled via an L-shaped rocker element to cause translational movement of the guitar strings thereby to adjust their tension and pitch. Rocker mechanisms are disclosed which minimize vibrational interference between adjacent rocker elements. Type: Grant Filed: February 18, 1986 Date of Patent: February 16, 1988 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Electromagnetic pickup for stringed musical instruments Patent number: 4686881 Abstract: An electromagnetic pickup for an electric guitar or similar stringed instrument incorporates a magnetic pickup assembly having pole pieces whose heads are slotted. The heads are positioned directly below the strings of the guitar. By orienting the slots so that they are perpendicular to the strings a percussive sound characteristic is obtained. By rotating the heads so that the slots are parallel to the strings, a sound characteristic typical of dual pole pickups is achieved. Type: Grant Filed: September 30, 1985 Date of Patent: August 18, 1987 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Tuning system for vibrato guitar with string lock Patent number: 4674389 Abstract: A guitar having a vibrato bridge assembly and a string lock mechanism for locking the strings at the intersection of the head and neck is provided with a fine-tuning mechanism on the bridge assembly. The tuning mechanism includes tuning knob elevator screws which are generally perpendicular to the face of the body of the guitar and which are easily accessible. Rotation of the tuning knob screws is coupled via an L-shaped rocker element to cause translational movement of the guitar strings thereby to adjust their tension and pitch. Rocker mechanisms are disclosed which minimize vibrational interference between adjacent rocker elements. Type: Grant Filed: June 11, 1986 Date of Patent: June 23, 1987 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Method of assembling a musical instrument neck Patent number: 4670955 Abstract: A musical instrument neck formed from first and second elongate neck blanks, each having an inner face, the inner faces being fastened together. An elongate arcuate groove extends along the inner face of the first neck blank only. Coaxial holes are formed in the inner faces of the neck blanks, the hole in the first neck blank being aligned with and perpendicular to one end of the groove. An elongate truss rod is positioned in the groove and an anchor pin is connected to one end of the truss rod, perpendicular thereto, the pin extending into the first and second holes in the neck blanks so as to simultaneously anchor one end of the truss rod and align the first and second neck blanks during a gluing operation. Type: Grant Filed: March 11, 1985 Date of Patent: June 9, 1987 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Vibrato assembly Patent number: 4671157 Abstract: A vibrato bridge assembly of an electric guitar is provided with a rotatable vibrato arm secured to a base plate by means of a bushing having a smooth-walled hole into which the arm fits. A set screw is provided to tighten against the arm to compensate for the tendency of the arm to become loose in the bushing. Type: Grant Filed: November 25, 1985 Date of Patent: June 9, 1987 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Pick-up for an electrical musical instrument of the stringed type Patent number: 4581975 Abstract: A humbucking pick-up for an electrical musical instrument of the stringed type including two or three primary pick-up assemblies and, in either case, a lesser number of additional pick-up assemblies are all that is necessary to provide for humbucking, the secondary pick-up assemblies not being used for signal generation. The pick-up includes an instrument mounted preamplifier. With the preamplifier in use, the signals from the primary and secondary pick-up assemblies are summed thereat. The preamplifier may be bypassed and the signals from the primary pick-up assemblies conducted directly to an amplification system. This is accomplished while maximizing the output signal and still permitting humbucking. A dual tone control arrangement is provided so that the primary and secondary coils can be balanced simultaneously. The arrangement of the primary coils is such that the operation of the secondary humbucking coils is not affected thereby. Type: Grant Filed: April 9, 1984 Date of Patent: April 15, 1986 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Humbucking pick-up assembly including an unmagnetized, disassociated coil Patent number: 4581974 Abstract: A pick-up assembly for stringed musical instruments including a pair of pick-up assemblies, only one of which is magnetized. The first and second pick-up assemblies are physically disassociated so that the reactance of the unmagnetized pick-up assembly does not interfere with the magnetized pick-up assembly. The unmagnetized pick-up assembly is lowered further into the body of the instrument than the magnetized pick-up assembly for the same purpose. The outputs of the two pick-up assemblies are summed at the negative input of an operational amplifier which negative input is a virtual ground so that neither coil acts as a load for the other coil. Type: Grant Filed: April 9, 1984 Date of Patent: April 15, 1986 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Last edited by ManyMartinMan; 05-12-2018 at 11:05 PM. |
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Sorry but I couldn't show half the Fender electric guitar patents on one post alone......... and these are just some of them.
Guitar neck and method of making same Patent number: 4528886 Abstract: A musical instrument neck formed from first and second elongate neck blanks, each having an inner face, the inner faces being fastened together. An elongate arcuate groove extends along the inner face of the first neck blank only. Coaxial holes are formed in the inner faces of the neck blanks, the hole in the first neck blank being aligned with and perpendicular to one end of the groove. An elongate truss rod is positioned in the groove and an anchor pin is connected to one end of the truss rod, perpendicular thereto, the pin extending into the first and second holes in the neck blanks so as to simultaneously anchor one end of the truss rod and align the first and second neck blanks during a gluing operation. Type: Grant Filed: January 14, 1983 Date of Patent: July 16, 1985 Inventor: C. Leo Fender String lock mechanism for musical instruments Patent number: 4517874 Abstract: An electric guitar is provided with a string clamping mechanism comprised of a planar base plate and one or more planar top members for clamping the strings between the base plate and top members. The clamp is secured to the guitar on an inclined surface between the top of the neck and the head of the guitar and is of shallow design to avoid interference with the playing of the guitar. A separate nut is provided which may be filed to achieve the desired string clearance at the first fret. The configuration of the clamp is such that the strings will provide a force which tilts the top members forward and down at the front edge to provide improved clamping action. The simple design facilitates the provision of truss rod adjustment at the top of the neck of the guitar. Type: Grant Filed: June 19, 1984 Date of Patent: May 21, 1985 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Angled humbucking pick-up for an electrical musical instrument of the stringed type Patent number: 4463648 Abstract: A pick-up for an electrical musical instrument of the stringed type which provides better separation between the sound from each string in a humbucking pick-up. This is achieved by longitudinally offsetting from each other a pair of pick-up assemblies mounted in a housing and mounting the pick-up on the body of an electrical musical instrument at an obtuse angle relative to the direction of the strings, the angle of mounting of the housing on the body being a direct function of the longitudinal offset whereby each of the pick-up assemblies is centered under the strings. Type: Grant Filed: May 2, 1983 Date of Patent: August 7, 1984 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Splitter switch for humbucking musical instrument pick-ups Patent number: 4319510 Abstract: In a pick-up for an electrical musical instrument of the type including first and second pick-up assemblies positioned in parallel, spaced relationship, each of the pick-up assemblies including at least one pole piece operatively associated with the strings of the instrument and a coil wound around the pole pieces, there is disclosed an improved splitter switch whereby whether the coils are connected in series or in parallel, when single coil operation is desired, the coils are connected in series with a capacitor across one of the coils whereby the splitter switch effectively provides single coil operation without decreasing the overall signal level of the pick-up. Type: Grant Filed: May 5, 1980 Date of Patent: March 16, 1982 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Saddle for bass guitar bridge or similar article Patent number: D268272 Type: Grant Filed: April 18, 1980 Date of Patent: March 15, 1983 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Vibrato bridge for stringed musical instruments Patent number: D268845 Type: Grant Filed: July 1, 1980 Date of Patent: May 3, 1983 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Guitar bridge Patent number: D269440 Type: Grant Filed: May 26, 1981 Date of Patent: June 21, 1983 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Guitar head Patent number: D270544 Type: Grant Filed: June 5, 1981 Date of Patent: September 13, 1983 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Control panel for an electric guitar or the like Patent number: D280640 Type: Grant Filed: May 23, 1983 Date of Patent: September 17, 1985 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Pick-up unit for electronic guitars Patent number: D319456 Type: Grant Filed: May 13, 1988 Date of Patent: August 27, 1991 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Bridge for stringed instruments Patent number: 4281576 Abstract: In a bridge for stringed instruments of the type including a base member, a plurality of drums, and means connecting the drums to the base member in end-to-end relationship for independent lateral movement in two orthogonal directions to separately adjust the length and height of each string, there is disclosed an improved construction wherein the strings are conducted into engagement with the drums so as to apply an axial force to each of the drums to urge all of the drums axially into contact with each other and the first drum into contact with a fixed abutment on the base member. Type: Grant Filed: October 29, 1979 Date of Patent: August 4, 1981 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Electromagnetic pickup for stringed musical instruments Patent number: 4220069 Abstract: A pickup for an electrical musical instrument of the stringed type including first and second pickup assemblies, each pickup assembly including a plurality of metallic, unmagnetized pole pieces operatively associated with the strings of the instrument, the pole pieces being aligned in parallel, spaced-apart relationship, generally perpendicular to the plane of the strings, first ends of all of the pole pieces being closely adjacent to the plane of the strings, second ends of all of the pole pieces being flat and planar. Type: Grant Filed: June 20, 1979 Date of Patent: September 2, 1980 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Musical instrument truss rod assembly Patent number: 4074606 Abstract: In a truss rod assembly for adjusting the curvature of the neck of a musical instrument of the type including an elongate, curved truss rod positionable within the instrument neck and having one end thereof fixed thereto, the other end thereof being movable to increase or decrease the tension on the truss rod to adjust the curvature of the instrument neck, there is disclosed an improvement wherein a major part of the central portion of the truss rod is flattened to increase the flexibility thereof, such flattening of the truss rod being in a plane perpendicular to the plane of curvature of the truss rod. Type: Grant Filed: October 20, 1976 Date of Patent: February 21, 1978 Inventor: C. Leo Fender String post for musical instruments Patent number: 4046050 Abstract: A string post for a musical instrument of the type which extends perpendicular to the instrument head and is adapted to be rotated manually to tighten a string wrapped therearound, the string post having a constantly decreasing diameter from the outer end thereof to a plane closely adjacent the instrument head so as to urge a string wrapped therearound toward and into contact with the instrument head. Type: Grant Filed: February 23, 1976 Date of Patent: September 6, 1977 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Bridge for stringed instruments Patent number: 4031799 Abstract: In a bridge for stringed instruments of the type including a plurality of independently movable drums which permit independent adjustment of the length and height of each string of the instrument, there is disclosed an improved construction wherein all of the drums are urged axially into contact with each other and a fixed post to reduce vibration of the drums and wherein the adjustment holes through the drums are arranged to prevent fraying of the sleeve of a player of the instrument as such sleeve passes over the bridge. Type: Grant Filed: January 26, 1976 Date of Patent: June 28, 1977 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Tone control circuit Patent number: 4002994 Abstract: A tone control circuit comprising an operational amplifier having an input and an output and a negative feedback circuit connected between the output and the input, the feedback circuit including a plurality of resistors and capacitors for controlling the magnitude of the high and low frequency components fed back to the input of the operational amplifier to selectably provide low frequency boost and high frequency boost or cut, the circuit having a high input impedance, a low output impedance, gain, and a relatively constant phase shift. Type: Grant Filed: January 26, 1976 Date of Patent: January 11, 1977 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Control panel for an electric guitar or the like Patent number: D256803 Type: Grant Filed: March 6, 1978 Date of Patent: September 9, 1980 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Bridge assembly for stringed musical instruments Patent number: D256804 Type: Grant Filed: March 6, 1978 Date of Patent: September 9, 1980 Inventor: C. Leo Fender Last edited by ManyMartinMan; 05-12-2018 at 10:59 PM. |
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ManyMartinMan, Concerning the above posts , you have misread and are reading things into my posts I did not say .
#1 .... I have no "issue with Fender" (totally "out of left field" imagination) #2 .... Where did I say Rickenbacher or his work was not an American contribution ?? If you took the wording of my post that way, it was not intended . I was not objecting to the Electric guitar as an American instrument , I was objecting to Leo Fender as the inventor of the electric guitar. #3 also having access to Google I was already aware of Fenders patents "specific" to the parts he used on Fender Guitars . Which BTW date from 1976 and later, meaning the development the electric guitar which basically started in the 30's was some 40 years in development by the time those patents were filed, Now obviously no way of knowing when he came up with the idea's, but it does not matter as they are specific to Fenders designs, and while they certainly represent contributions to the development and improvement of already existing tech, and moving the concepts forward, they are not proof of having "invented " the electric guitar per se, just sayin . #3 I think there is no question that Leo Fender was a pivotal influence in the development and popularity of the modern electric guitar. (I put this in bold in the hopes you will not continue to misread my statements) And he like Henry Ford and auto's, certainly gets credit for developing the mass production of the item.... However I clearly stated (which you actually quoted ) and was simply pointing out that in terms of "inventing the electric guitar" he was not exclusive or the one single person.. Which objectively takes nothing away from Leo Fender's contributions.
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There have been flutes found in Neanderthal cave dwellings in Germany that date back more than 40,000 years. Are the flutes made by Native Americans significantly different? Or is the flute something that humans have been making since long before they reached North America. Even the earliest estimates of human migration into the New World are much later on than the first flutes.
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I put it to you that you need to prove the difference in the flutes , if it is real . In other words , prove your position if you can . |
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Kick drum pedals. Ludwig came up with the basic design in 1910 that is still relatively unchanged. Just to add, Drums are not an American invention, but the modern drum set and many innovations realated to it can be arguably be said to have been born here.
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The Appalachian dulcimer (or mountain dulcimer) isn't really an original American instrument. In it's present form maybe, but the European scheitholt long predates the dulcimer and is almost exactly the same, with it's diatonic fretting system and usually having 3 to 4 strings. Our dulcimer's hourglass shape may be American-invented, but I think the dulcimer may owe it's origin here to scheitholts being brought over by immigrants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheitholt Jack
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The alternative being what?
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