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12-12-2018, 04:09 PM
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Mahogany top: how about volume and headroom compared to to Sitka?
What about headroom and volume when it comes to mahogany top (I’m thinking especially about Martin 15 serie) , does it handle the comparaison with Sitka ?
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12-12-2018, 04:15 PM
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I have about 30 guitars and have had hundreds. The only guitar I've ever been loyal to is my 2008 Martin 000-15 because it literally sounds better and can do more than any guitar I've owned.
It's plenty loud, full low end, rich highs, dreamy mids. It fits in fine in a jamb with guys playing big dreads with heavy strings and heavy picks. I play with my bare fingers and fingernail most of the time using light strings. It's a monster. That being said, while I think they are the best overall value in guitars, I think I got a really, really, really good one. It just outperforms everything I've put up against it, even much bigger guitars. I believe that the 15 series doesn't look anything like the one I have anymore (different woods, bridge pins, tuners, neck joint, etc), so I can't speak to the newer ones. I still beleive they are the best buy in the business, though. I have played some D15s that blew the doors off the D28s in the jamb and the Collings, Bourgeois, etc equivalents. Maybe others share my experience and it's not a fluke, but mine is exceptionally full, rich and loud and is the reason I don't play big guitars anymore....I don't have to.
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12-12-2018, 04:15 PM
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I had a Martin OM 15e all Mahogany and an Eastman E6 OM Limited, Sitka/ Mahogany. The Eastman was definitely louder and had more punch. The Martin sounded sweet and warm. They were both great guitars in their own way.
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12-12-2018, 04:50 PM
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12-12-2018, 05:17 PM
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12-12-2018, 05:23 PM
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The self limiting and volume aspects of all mahogany guitars is frequently talked about and IMO, exaggerated.
Yes, all things being equal, a mahogany top will not produce as much volume as spruce. Often, things aren't equal. The build of the guitar is the most important aspect of volume, IMO. How much volume do you need? If you are doing Bluegrass, then all mahogany may not be your best choice. Vocal accompaniment? The guitar can be louder than you can sing. Another consideration... there are trade-offs with most guitar comparisons and choices. It depends on what you want. I have a 00-15 Martin, nearly 20 years old. It is a sweet sounding guitar and louder than you would expect. It is one of my favorites.
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12-12-2018, 05:32 PM
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My all hog Guild rings out well (finger style) but my Avalon (spruce/rosewood) is on another level.
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12-12-2018, 05:47 PM
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The closest comparision one could make is a Martin 000-18 vs a 000-15. Evertime I have played them back to back the spruce top 000-18 was a little louder. But because it is brighter it is a preceived "louder. The 000-15 is real close with good headroom but can get a bit muddy with really aggressive strumming, 000 size are not dreadnaughts.
I really like the tone and volume I get from 000-15 fingerpicked, no nails just flesh.
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12-12-2018, 05:55 PM
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To my ears, Spruce has more overall volume but Hog tops can be strummed more aggressively without breaking up, ie "headroom". This is my personal perception.
The tones are quite different though and a matter of taste.
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12-12-2018, 08:54 PM
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12-12-2018, 09:05 PM
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My approach, and the guitars, differ from most in this thread. Currently I own a Waterloo WL-12mh and a Martin 000-18, which will be returned and replaced with a 00-18. My Waterloo is less focused and "loud" than the spruce-topped Martins but perhaps fuller and more nuanced. So I don't feel any need to prove which is louder or better. I like both.
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12-12-2018, 09:14 PM
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My lowly AC240 is possibly TOO loud. I was astounded based on what I had read sbout hog tops.
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12-12-2018, 09:27 PM
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My Mahogany topped Taylor 324 with Blackwood back and sides is one of the loudest guitars I’ve ever owned. It’s a sound cannon. Louder than my Sitka spruce Gibson J45
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