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Anyone have a shorter scale X20?
I love everything about the sound, quality, and ergonomics of X20 I got last July, with the exception of the 25 1/2" scale. So I’m thinking of ordering the same model and finish, but with a shorter scale, like my Martin 00-18 and RainSong Concert Hybrid Orchestra Model 12 Fret. While it’s the most comfortable 25 1/2” acoustic neck I’ve played, the shorter scale length just works better for my hands. I’m curious if anyone has an X20 with that scale length. I don’t want a 12 fret, just a 24.9” scale neck. Will probably upgrade to the LR Baggs Anthem pickup, too.
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1950 Martin 00-18 RainSong Concert Hybrid Orchestra Model 12 Fret Eastman E20OOSS. Strandberg Boden Original 6 Eastman T185MX G&L ASAT Classic USA Butterscotch Blonde Rickenbacher Lap Steel Voyage-Air VAD-2 Martin SW00-DB Machiche 1968 Guild F-112 Taylor 322e 12 Fret V Class |
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I have, Seann. There is considerable discussion in this review thread that I started. I won't rehash the details here. https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=600111
My goal was to get a short-scale version of my stock model from 2016. I ordered 24.6" scale to match my custom X20-12. (In retrospect, that may be a little too short and maybe 24.75" would have been better). Mine ended up with a body join at roughly the 13¼ fret position, but that is not an issue -- I can still play easily up to fret 17 and 19. Some work was needed to tweak the nut slots, but it now plays almost like an electric. |
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Thanks, Earl, and I reread your thread again.
I had a local luthier lower the saddle on my X20 based on this advice I got from Kevin: Quote:
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1950 Martin 00-18 RainSong Concert Hybrid Orchestra Model 12 Fret Eastman E20OOSS. Strandberg Boden Original 6 Eastman T185MX G&L ASAT Classic USA Butterscotch Blonde Rickenbacher Lap Steel Voyage-Air VAD-2 Martin SW00-DB Machiche 1968 Guild F-112 Taylor 322e 12 Fret V Class |
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I love my x20 short scale. It is the config you are considering - 24.9" and Anthem.
I have switched to almost all short scale, and my hands are happy for it. Hopefully one day eatswodo and I can get ours side by side to compare tone, volume, etc... of standard vs short scale. I am sure we will record something and pass it on to the group. Anyway, if you have any questions, let me know.
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Emerald X20 woody (Pao Ferro), Journey OF660, RainSong APLE, Martin 0-15sm - LA Guitar custom, Recording King RO-06M, Gretsch 5422TG, Epiphone Elitist Casino, G&L ASAT Tribute, Pono cedar/macassar tenor uke, Lanikai SMP-TC tenor uke - and a level of ability that lets each of these down oh so often... but loving it every time I play! |
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Seann, one very easy test is to use a capo at the first fret. This yields a scale length of roughly 24.2". If you also tune a standard scale down to Eb that gives roughly the same overall tension as the shorter scale. I did that on my X20 for two weeks before ordering the custom, and again after to compare the two. I found that playability and tension were virtually identical between the two.
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I would consider the x7 if I were you, 24inch scale standard. Very comfortable, and in my opinion, can sound as good as some x20's.
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That sounds like a grand idea - I look forward to it!
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Simon, PM just sent. I would very much like to chat offline and privately.
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1950 Martin 00-18 RainSong Concert Hybrid Orchestra Model 12 Fret Eastman E20OOSS. Strandberg Boden Original 6 Eastman T185MX G&L ASAT Classic USA Butterscotch Blonde Rickenbacher Lap Steel Voyage-Air VAD-2 Martin SW00-DB Machiche 1968 Guild F-112 Taylor 322e 12 Fret V Class |
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+1 here SS on my X-20, works well with the longer 14 fret neck.
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My custom X20 had a 24.6" scale and I loved that. I did not like the standard 25.5" scale.
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Those slim body X10's in this weeks shipping video keep speaking to me for a possible short scale build.
https://www.facebook.com/EmeraldGuit...09186592792451
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Quote:
I do like the neck profile on my X10.
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Paid my deposit today!
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1950 Martin 00-18 RainSong Concert Hybrid Orchestra Model 12 Fret Eastman E20OOSS. Strandberg Boden Original 6 Eastman T185MX G&L ASAT Classic USA Butterscotch Blonde Rickenbacher Lap Steel Voyage-Air VAD-2 Martin SW00-DB Machiche 1968 Guild F-112 Taylor 322e 12 Fret V Class |
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Paid my deposit today!
X20 with Custom 24.875" scale LR Baggs Anthem Lower action Colour TBC
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1950 Martin 00-18 RainSong Concert Hybrid Orchestra Model 12 Fret Eastman E20OOSS. Strandberg Boden Original 6 Eastman T185MX G&L ASAT Classic USA Butterscotch Blonde Rickenbacher Lap Steel Voyage-Air VAD-2 Martin SW00-DB Machiche 1968 Guild F-112 Taylor 322e 12 Fret V Class |