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There's likely going to be a Boomer selloff in the next couple years. Resale is going to be bad for most stuff. I'll have my eye out for bargains.
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I already have one well-worn Boomer (me) in my home. Don't need another...
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It’s already in progress.
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Well there is are always exceptions of course. BUT that was actually paraphrasing what the manager of the Acoustic section Of Apple Music in Portland Oregon said a number times. Who BTW sold Breedloves from the start , and sold more Breedloves than any other retail shop in the country for something like 7 or 8 years running . And I'll' take his perspective as being the more informed and knowledgeable of the used market value over your anecdotal "several" instances.
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But the analogy is questionable in relevance at best and is becoming a distraction. So back to the actual question posed in the OP . I think the single fact of the partnership with Eastman per se, is at this point just as equally likely to have positive as negative, or no appreciable, effect on resale value going forward.
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A few good reasons to buy a nice used one -
1. It already has the depreciation factored into the price. 2. The woods have had time to dry/age/open up. 3. No need to guess what it will sound like once it's 'opened up'. 4. the first scratch is already there. No need to worry about it!
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I feel their guitars are great -
Thou their not my cup of tea - Not a fan of buying imports have always felt more pride in buying USA - but many companies feel the bottom line is the most important -Being able to stay in business and turn a profit. Yes Used is the way to go -But gentle used and well cared for would be my priority - and from a non smoker. .
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As a current Bourgeois owner myself, this is pretty much where I’m at, too. I don’t love the idea, although I’m sure these new Eastman models will be fine guitars. Just would’ve been cool if Bourgeois could’ve stayed on the small side forever, and still made everyone ample $. The Eastman affiliation definitely taints the brand, in my opinion.
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Well, Dana has had the corporate lords of Pantheon–whatever that entity is–hovering over him for many years now, and his guitars have only gotten better and more adventurous.
I can't imagine that he and all those other leathery Mainers up there in the shop would succumb to the siren song of easy Chinese money that could undermine the tremendous, skill, dedication, and reputation they've built up over the years.
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I don't have much to add, except to point out that Eastman is not "a high volume Chinese guitar company." And at the $3000-6000 targeted price points, I don't see them selling a ton of them either. Based on Bourgeois' 400 and Eastman's 4000 annual acoustic guitar volumes, I'd place my bets on them selling ~800 guitars, which would triple DB's business and add 20% onto Eastman's business. As for cars, I owned four domestic cars: three with engine failure before 100k miles, the other got totaled in a head-on vs. pickup truck. I owned Mitsubishi cars for 18 years and drove them into the ground with minimal repairs needed (traded them b/c the leather interior gave out). Owned two pre-owned Mercedes-Benz, where my maintenance equaled my monthly car payments (ridiculous!), so I traded them back for... wait for it... used Lexus and Acura. Nearly two years in, and we have less than $300 in total maintenance / service (and since they're not new, they haven't depreciated much either). I think that gets me caught up on this thread.
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My observation is that for the first 10 years, or so, guitars tend to go down in value after which their value levels off for another 10 years, or so, and then begin to increase in value. After about 25 or 30 years, a well maintained guitar might be worth close to, or more, than it cost new. A lot of this is due to inflation offsetting the effects of depreciation.
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I think the risk is that in the future a consumer could get the same quality of build and tone in a new Bourgeois/Eastman guitar (and have the Eastman lifetime warranty) but only have to spend used Bourgeois guitar money to do so. And they may even get the new guitar for less than what a used Bourgeois guitar goes for now.
So if I'm a consumer, why would I spend X amount for a used guitar when I can buy a new one in better condition for the same amount, if not less? I have no doubt the new guitars will equal what Bourgeois puts out now. |