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Used Neve Portico 5012s are somewhat reasonably priced, there's one in like new condition for $1000 on ebay (no affiliation with seller). They are really nice sounding pres, and with the silk button can do the saturation thing too I also like the high pass filters on them which I use for acoustic guitars alot! They sound good with KM184s. XLR outs though, no 1/4"
Here's the one on ebay... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rupert-Neve...xRX-:rk:1:pf:0 manual... http://rupertneve.com/static/media/2.../5012guide.pdf |
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Or the other option depending on your intended use, might be a tube compressor instead for tracking and or , on your mix bus
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He said he was looking for a two channel mic pre that would give him a a cleaner tone or a warmer tone. Cloudlifters are transparent so they're not going to give him anything he doesn't already have except to make his mic send a louder signal into his preamp. That's what they're designed to do.
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More than $500 - Great River mp-2nv
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I picked up one of the new Warm Audio WA273's. Really pleased with it.
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Obviously I do not want distortion for my acoustic preamps...I want cleanliness with the lovely subtle harmonics and compression a valve amp can give. So when I read the review on the Demeter and he compared it to the Pendulum preamp..and rated it close...I was very impressed. I have been told by many for a valve amp that Pendulum is possibly the best.How would you rate the differences between Sebatron Axis and the Demeter? I am very happy that you have introduced me to both of these preamps because the Pendulum is out of my price range right now. And Pendulum is no longer making amps either. While Sebatron and Demeter are still going. |
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Well I´m one of those people who thinks that a preamp is just another tool. Yes every preamp has its own sound, but thats just a small percentage of the hole recording thing. Todays preamps in the your mixer or audiointerface are pretty good. You can make professional recordings with this stuff.
I dont think a preamp will make the most significant amount of improvement in your recordings. For me its: 1. good source (instrument, voice ....) 2. the player or singer itself (performance) 3. good mic and placement (the one for the right job) sometimes a voice needs a SM58 4. a good room 5. mixing (whatever is needed to get your sound) 6. some sort of preamp Here is a small sample :-) left channel is an audiotechnica mb4000c small condenser into a yamaha md4 mixer. right channel is the direct sound K&K pure mini and Fishman rare earth blend mixed together going through a Bose T1. Both inputs go into a motu 1224 Audiointerface. Recorded in a Bedroom (no treatment). Just added a little bit of reverb. So nothing fancy. www.polyphon-recording.de\hurt1.zip Last edited by Basalt Beach; 02-08-2019 at 08:05 PM. Reason: masked profanity |
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I recommend http://www.npngproducts.com/Home_Page.html
I have the two channel preamp. Also I have a Great River MP-2MH which is another excellent preamp. This model discontinued but any of Great River's newer preamps a good bet.
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Here you go... www.polyphon-recording.de/hurt2.zip Same setup no postprocessing. |
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I have posted this in a couple of other forums but thought this thread may be able to help me as well in regards to the "next steps" down the rabbit hole:
First, my room is treated. I learned to do that first from reading posts here. I have 4" thick Bass Traps in the corners and where the ceiling and wall meet. I have 2" thick absorption panels on the walls and reflection points. I am using an Apollo Twin USB as my interface coupled with a Focusrite Scarlett OctoPre for additional inputs. I use some UAD plugins. I use Studio One 3 Pro as my DAW. I have the following microphones: Shure SM7B, Shure KSM313 ribbon, Shure SM 57, sE ELectronics Voodoo 1 ribbon, Se Electronics sE5 matched pair small condensers, Warm Audio WA87, Warm Audio WA251, and Rode NT1-A. I am not currently trying to record other bands. I am only working on my own stuff and with the guys I play some classic rock and country covers with. My music is best described as jam band/blues and/or southern country rock. Think Allman Brothers, Eagles, Tom Petty, Rolling Stones "Sticky Fingers/Let it Bleed"era. I am getting better at mixing and tracking with each new recording and am thinking that a couple of channels of outboard preamps would be next logical step in the gear acquisition rabbit hole. I don't feel like I necessarily need out board eq or compression yet. I would rather spend the money on good preamps. I am willing to spend up to $2400 at this time. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Here is an example of what I am doing: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tc...aTI4u7qqnSM1ri
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If I had to pick one, I'd go with the Demeter because I don't do instrumentals so vocals are an important consideration. To my ears, the Demeter edges out the Sebatron slightly in that department. If I was doing strictly instrumentals, I'd probably give the Sebatron the slight edge. But if I'm being totally honest, the differences are slight and I could be absolutely happy with either on its own. So if you're interested in my recommendation, buy whichever one you can get the best deal on. They're both absolute stunners and I've no doubt you'll be incredibly pleased by either. True story - My friend Vinny is a singer ...mostly opera but he dives into jazz standards and show tunes as well. I bought an Audio-Scape Opto compressor about a year ago and Vinny, as well as another friend who has a studio, came over so we could test the compressor out. At some point I had Vinny singing through my Demeter instead of the generic preamps on my UA Apollo. His eyes lit up. He has a small home studio and a couple of decent mic pres but the Demeter really is special on some vocals. Within a couple of weeks he bought a used VTMP-2b on Reverb and hasn't stopped raving about it. But like I said, I could be very happy if either was my only pre. They're both really excellent and both can be had for a nice price on the used market.
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