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Old 01-14-2019, 12:59 AM
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What a cool guitar! I am such a sucker for slope shoulders. I wish I hadn't seen this. The MLO neck is not my thing, but at least it it isn't the PA taper. I figure for every three or four of these sold, there will be one on the used market within a year. What a great deal at $1100-1200 used.
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:27 AM
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I made a resolution to buy no new guitars this year, but this one could break the deal for me. I loved the 000-17, and this slope dread just looks the business. I could see myself falling in love and selling a D-28 for it. Yeah, I seriously could...
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True, but my finances aren't quite so infinite.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:51 PM
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https://www.musicradar.com/news/namm...oulder-guitars

Looks like the Road series and D Jr are being updated as well.

I really wish that they'll offer that D15 in the non-streetmaster finish, but we'll see
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:45 PM
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I for one like the distressed looks of the streetmaster.
just wish it were spruce instead of mahog.
All subjective i know. if it sounds good thats
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:46 PM
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I absolutely love my 000-17 and a lot of that is because of the Gibson flavor to the tone. If this one follows suit it could be a complete killer for the money. Step up boys and get out the checkbooks!
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What a cool guitar! I am such a sucker for slope shoulders. I wish I hadn't seen this. The MLO neck is not my thing, but at least it it isn't the PA taper. I figure for every three or four of these sold, there will be one on the used market within a year. What a great deal at $1100-1200 used.
I bet you'll be able to get these new for around $1,250, maybe a little less. The 000-15sm, for example, retails for $1599 (list = $1949), but you can get those new for less than $1300.
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Old 01-14-2019, 02:10 PM
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Are any of these new slope shouldered guitars going to come as short scale instruments? I did not see the full specs for any of these.

My apologies if this has been determined on the forum.
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Old 01-14-2019, 02:22 PM
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Are any of these new slope shouldered guitars going to come as short scale instruments? I did not see the full specs for any of these.
Depends on what you mean by "any of these." The J-15 is short scale.
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Old 01-14-2019, 02:51 PM
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Oh no... Just when I stopped buying guitars for a while.
Yup, same here. I've been wanting an affordable 14-fret slope shoulder dreadnaught for a long time... I admit I never quite understood why slope shoulder dreadnaughts tend to be 12-fretters. What does the shape of the body have to do with where the frets meet the body...?
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:51 PM
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Yup, same here. I've been wanting an affordable 14-fret slope shoulder dreadnaught for a long time... I admit I never quite understood why slope shoulder dreadnaughts tend to be 12-fretters. What does the shape of the body have to do with where the frets meet the body...?
The original Martin dreadnought was a 12-fret design, starting with the model they made for Ditson a little over a century ago. After the Ditson stores went bankrupt, Martin made the dreadnought under their own name, as the D-1 and D-2. These would become the D-18 and D-28 and get the 14-fret treatment in 1934.

Around this same time, Gibson introduced what they then called the jumbo — a wide-waisted model similar in overall proportions to Martin’s dreadnought, but with sloped shoulders, similar to Martin’s original 12-fret dreadnought. Gibson offered these in 14-fret versions like the J-35, Advanced Jumbo, and later, guitars like the J-45, J-50, and Southern Jumbo.

Gibson also made 12-fret versions of their slope-shoulder design, but these differed by moving the bridge further down into the lower bout of the guitar rather than any large difference in the guitars’ silhouette.

After introducing their initial jumbo design, Gibson introduced an even larger body size, which was initially called a “super jumbo” and, along with similar models from companies like Guild and Taylor, has since typified what most refer to as a jumbo size.

With this shift in taxonomy and evolution of the jumbo guitar, Gibson’s original “jumbo” size is now commonly referred to as a “slope-shoulder dreadnought” by makers and players alike as the guitars are fairly similar in size and use.

Yes, it’s a little confusing. I recommend owning one of each just to be on the safe side.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:13 PM
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I admit to being curious about this guitar and I would definitely like to play one but...
I'm happy with the icon.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:37 PM
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For me, it will be about how it sounds. If it sounds like the other 17's, it's a no go. If it sounds like a Dread Jr, that's good but I already have a Djr. If it sounds like a Ceo7, it's going home with me.
It's gonna be extremely difficult for this model to sound like a CEO7 since the CEO7 is a 00L body shape with an Adirondack top. And speaking of 00's, this past weekend I had the opportunity to play a few of the 00-17's smoke and whiskey sunset 12 fret and 14 fret models and also a 0-18. All those guitars were ok, nothing really outstanding or piqued my interest until i played an E10 00 Eastman that was just a great sounding, very comfortable and a few hundred dollars less. So I ended up putting the E10 00 on layaway until i move another guitar, most likely the Single 0 Recording King Schoenberg Model.
The E10 00 is the perfect finger style model with wide string spacing, Short scale, 12 fret, Adi top with genuine mahogany b & s, dovetail neck joint and slotted head stock all for under $1100. It will fit in perfectly with my two Martins.
Sorry about changing the subject and getting carried away.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:57 PM
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The D-15S and D-15SM models are slope-shoulder all mahogany or sapele dreadnoughts. I guess they don't make these any more.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:58 PM
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The D-15S and D-15SM are slope-shoulder dreadnoughts. I guess they don't make these any more.
You can still get them "custom" from various retailers, who order them in batches. Check with some of the forum sponsor shops.
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