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Old 07-26-2020, 02:15 PM
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Nice work! You took the simple piece and phrased it in your own way with "classical" changes in dynamics, repeats and ritards to add more interest.
And I guess you were serious about not liking the C# in that little chromatic run. You played it straight. I agree with Charles though. It's such a simple piece, with very little to draw on in terms of special interest, so taking advantage of a passing note from a different key makes good sense, especially where it's positioned at the end of the 1st movement. Maybe a little stretching of the pulse along with a staccato attack would have highlighted that run a little more in that style.
But, it's your gig! and you're free to do as you wish.
Lastly, I would just like to commend you for doing this type of thread. You put in a lot of effort and I'm sure that a lot of people enjoyed the process very much, especially with the recording at the end.
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Old 07-26-2020, 02:40 PM
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I really enjoyed this thread. A piece like this I would not have thought deeply about, picking fingerings that work quickly and trying to make it sound musical. It would be something of a sight reading exercise. And yet there was plenty to look at and understand in the harmony and construction and I really feel I understand it better as a result. So I've made a note to self to play a little bit more attention to the details when picking up a piece and not to take the first fingering I think of as the best for granted. Thanks for doing it.
Thank you, Martin, for giving your thoughts. I really appreciate them.

I could probably do a 12 page analysis of baa-baa black sheep, so stay tuned for that! But you're right there is often more to a piece than one might suspect at first glance. I seem to recall reading about Segovia working out a new piece and he would play it this way and that way, then that way and this way. I find it almost like a puzzle and quite enjoyable.
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Old 07-26-2020, 02:48 PM
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Nice work! You took the simple piece and phrased it in your own way with "classical" changes in dynamics, repeats and ritards to add more interest.
And I guess you were serious about not liking the C# in that little chromatic run. You played it straight. I agree with Charles though. It's such a simple piece, with very little to draw on in terms of special interest, so taking advantage of a passing note from a different key makes good sense, especially where it's positioned at the end of the 1st movement. Maybe a little stretching of the pulse along with a staccato attack would have highlighted that run a little more in that style.
But, it's your gig! and you're free to do as you wish.
Lastly, I would just like to commend you for doing this type of thread. You put in a lot of effort and I'm sure that a lot of people enjoyed the process very much, especially with the recording at the end.
Take a bow, you deserve one!
Thank you Andre. Those are very kind words.

I rerecorded the piece, and the sound is better now.

I was serious about not liking the C#. I find it almost cutesy. So I cleverly hid it behind the D note. But I can appreciate leaning on it, sort like what can happen in Baroque music where the note 1/2 step down from the chord tone is played strongly on the beat.

That's one of the neat and amazing things about music, how even a simple piece like this can be interpreted in many ways. Even for me I can imagine doing it fairly straight and fast, or really loose with a ton of rubato. In the end I tend to take the Goldilocks version of not too fast, not too slow, not too strict, not too loose.
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Old 07-26-2020, 03:38 PM
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Thank you, Martin, for giving your thoughts. I really appreciate them.

I could probably do a 12 page analysis of baa-baa black sheep, so stay tuned for that! But you're right there is often more to a piece than one might suspect at first glance. I seem to recall reading about Segovia working out a new piece and he would play it this way and that way, then that way and this way. I find it almost like a puzzle and quite enjoyable.
With a 4 year old and an 8 month old I'm waiting with bated breath for Baa Baa Black Sheep. Its about all I get to play at the moment!
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Old 07-26-2020, 04:27 PM
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With a 4 year old and an 8 month old I'm waiting with bated breath for Baa Baa Black Sheep. Its about all I get to play at the moment!
Well, 16 bar tunes is what you're going to want to focus on. Maybe 8 bars at a time. Play and sing for them, though, that's how the music gets in there.
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Old 07-26-2020, 05:25 PM
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Thank you mc1 for suggesting this piece. I started with classical and haven't learned a new classical piece in many years. This one was a lot of fun and really did help me think about good technique more than I usually do.

Got another to suggest?
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Old 07-26-2020, 05:35 PM
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Thank you mc1 for suggesting this piece. I started with classical and haven't learned a new classical piece in many years. This one was a lot of fun and really did help me think about good technique more than I usually do.

Got another to suggest?
Thanks _zedagive. It's so cool to get replies from those who might have read or followed the thread. Very nice.

I've got dozens or more, right off the top of my head. I partly chose this one because I wasn't at all familiar with it. But I've come to like it quite a bit. I hear it in my sleep. But that's just because it's on my mind. Maybe easy pieces will be my specialty. Even easy pieces are hard, in a way. At least for me they are.

If you or someone else is really looking for a piece, years ago I started a "learn a piece a week" thread here, in which I tried to showcase easy but beautiful pieces. Here it is:
https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=382492

It does take a bit of time, though. Enjoyable time, meaningful time, but time none the less.

But you make me think I should find another. This was fun. Thanks again.
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Old 07-30-2020, 05:21 PM
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Anyone post a soundcloud clip of the arrangement yet?
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Anyone post a soundcloud clip of the arrangement yet?
Hi Barry,

I did a recording and it's on dropbox. It turned out ok, not great, not awful. I should try to improve the quality of they playing and the recording, but that isn't possible for me at the moment as we are doing some renovations things are a jumble. So I might also just move on. However, it's a sweet little piece that I've grown to like.

Here is the link:
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Hi Barry,

I did a recording and it's on dropbox. It turned out ok, not great, not awful. I should try to improve the quality of they playing and the recording, but that isn't possible for me at the moment as we are doing some renovations things are a jumble. So I might also just move on. However, it's a sweet little piece that I've grown to like.

Here is the link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cv4o9vjy8t...ntino.mp3?dl=0
Ok, thanks. I'll give it a try over the next week or so.
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