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Torrified guitars do change ever so slightly in the first days but they seem to be set in stone after that. Of course I don't actually own one myself to know 10 years from now if it has aged or not but from what I see my guess is they don't. |
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~~~~~~~~~ RE: ToneRite on torrified tops: I bought a used Collings C10-35 from another AGF member a few months back. He said that he had put a ToneRite on it and hasn’t noticed much of a difference. I had intended to give it some more ToneRite treatment after I received it, but I am liking the way it sounds right now, and trust that it’s tone might change as I continue to play it (my OM2HG certainly has). I have had some good results with using my ToneRite, but I wouldn’t describe the results as increasing vibration. |
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So the torrefied guitars that you've made were ordered by other guitarists? You didn't keep one torrefied guitar for yourself?
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I've never experienced my Tonerite wearing out strings and I've run it on single guitars for weeks. I think string wear has more to do with build up of grime and corrosion.
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My experience strongly contradicts this. Strings get worn out not just by grime and corrosion, but by vibrations. Playing weakens the strings and so it stands to reason that the tone rite would too. I’m a frequent string changer and often find myself doing it on a guitar that’s been played a lot after a week. They’re not bad after a week, but they are less than they were. This is especially true with mandolins. It’s possible you’re okay with the sound of slightly deadens string (you’re not alone!) and so it’s less of an issue for you, but the fatigue on the strings from days of vibrations reduces the high end and sparkle. I’ll pick up a guitar mid-Tone Rite to check in on where it is, but I’m mostly listening for increased depth in the low end, not checking in on the tone, which I know will be muted as a result of the treatment.
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I might consider it some day though. |
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Though I have read mixed reviews about the effectiveness of the tonerite. i never read anything about if keeping it on the guitar can do damage. So on it stayed. I did play it a couple times a week but it was hard to judge because the strings were shot. After six weeks I changed the strings and it was a pleasant surprise. Adi tops are known for a long break in period and I know with several years of playing the guitar will continue to open up, but the Tonerite was a nice way to get it started.
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The guitar in question is my torrified Adi/torrifed hog Bob Thompson DN. My other DN is torrified Adi/torrified EIR, which isn't nearly as stiff. The Adi/hog DN is plenty loud, just not responsive if I lighten my pick attack. Sounds great. My right hand lacks the stamina to play like that all of the time. I'll give it a few weeks this time and a new set of strings when it's done. |
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I recently got a brand new Martin HD-28V w/Adi top and braces. It was super tight sounding out of the box. 5 days on the Tonerite settled her right in and the tightness is now gone, didn't want to go too long, as I want to naturally let her open up as well. I would definitely recommend for anyone with a brand new adi topped guitar.
ETA: No noticeable affect on the "feel" of the guitar after tonerite, just more gentle on the ears. |
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Not very responsive if I'm not flat picking as hard as I can. Sounds great when I do this, but a little dull if I back off. I still need to hand it to a friend so I can hear the true sound out front.
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I just bought a brand new Martin 00 12-string custom. It was built in 2016 and sat at the factory for some time. When I got the guitar it was extremely "tight" sounding. I don't usually put a ToneRite on 12-string guitars but this guitar really needed some vibration so it has been on a ToneRite for a week. The guitar has opened up quite a bit. I will put the ToneRite back on this guitar this morning.
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I didn't write down an exact time. I think I did ToneRite for about 4-5 weeks on the aforementioned Bob Thompson Adi/hog DN. Much more responsive.
Decided I'll give my Kronbauer baritone 4-6 weeks to loosen it up a bit, too. |
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Thanks for the post. Now that it's warmer the heat is off in my apartment and the humidity has risen to a "safe" point so it's time to re-ToneRite my guitars. I didn't do that earlier this year because the humidity in my room was 25 percent to around 35 percent. But I kept them in their case with a soundhole humidifier which I changed the water about twice a week so they are OK.
But now I can keep them out on a stand and so will be using the ToneRite again.
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