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I’m about half way through my list. Tried so far:
SM57 SM58 SM81 835 AT2035 ATM450 The ATM450 is my new favorite, really enjoying learning how to use this excellent SDC. The most natural and clear so far. On the way: KM184 NT5 Still finding: AT4041 M160 KSM44A CMC6 George |
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I've been using the Sennheiser e835 for years. I wound up preferring them over the SM58.
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Hmm.. Can you tell me what's better about them? I'm always interested in upping the game a little.
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I agree with comments here that a microphone closer to the sound you like without any processing is better but I have found that all recording require some processing and different mics “take eq” better than others and I didn’t understand that in the beginning. I passed on the SM81 before I really gave that mic a proper fully processed test. I also learned that condensers pick up more background noise to varying degrees so in my less than optimum “studio” that’s a challenge. Some condensers are better at providing their trademark clarity without revealing the Ac compressor running on the other side of the house. The SE2200 was way too sensitive and the 450 is much better for instance. When it comes to acoustic I’m looking for less ambient noise, more clarity and a natural bass without any annoying edgy artifacts or boominess. The 835 is brighter but sometimes has some edgy tones and I found it a little boomy when I tried to get the bass side to sound right. I have not tried two mics in stereo yet which will probably help this. Just ordered a second stand. So far the 450 is the most natural across the frequency spectrum, stays smooth and crisp and doesn’t pick up everything in the room. Closest reproduction of my Martin big sound yet. No mud. On vocals when I moved up to the 421 my recordings were smoother and did not exaggerate the less pleasant aspects of my voice. When I got the track bright enough to sit in the mix it was still smooth. All my mentors who heard my new recordings after that commented on how much better my vocals were. I leaned into the 421 on my last recording for a real intimate proximity fueled phrase and it was so personal and pleasant sounding. On some mics that would have come off sounding like a recording mistake. The most talented guy in my circle told me that this part of the song sold it completely. I don’t like this mic for acoustic guitar. Haven’t tried it on electric yet. George |
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A few more comments on vocal recording. There is way more to the ultimate recording result than just the frequency response of a mic. Just like flat cd response is not the same as flat vinyl response. Tubes don’t sound like transistors, etc. there is color, harmonics, etc that are not frequency. A woman with a beautiful silky voice probably sounds better with a revealing accurate detailed mic. When I do that my voice gets less pleasant. Vocal mikes are the most personal to the singer and sometimes you can’t completely describe how they are different good or bad. When I did my first 421 test recording Of my voice I just remember thinking, holy crap I can’t believe that’s me. Don’t know that I can completely explain why. The SE2200 at a similar price point was just annoying to work with and produced an unpleasant response. Could the result have been better in the hands of a proper recording engineer in a quality studio? Probably.
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For my own uses, I have found that the built-in pop filter on the 421 is not all that great. You may have found that if you're going to get up close on this that you need an added screen type pop filter. I have a sleeve-type pop filter I put over mine that really helps, and while it probably knocks off some of the high frequencies, that mic has such a high frequency bump in it that I don't even notice. I'm also glad to hear that you are pleased with the ATM-450 on your guitar. Regarding AC noise, I have learned to turn the AC or heat setting up/down during recording. You almost need a checklist before hitting that red record button. And then when you are done with a take, you need to turn heat/AC settings back where they were or other people in the house might suffer. It sounds like you are making good progress. I do like to record an acoustic guitar in stereo. I bet you will be pleased with the results, though you will be experimenting for a while before you find the combination of mics that you like best. - Glenn
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I am also working on a space with better treatment so eventually I might start to like some of the more sensitive condensers as I am able to manage room acoustics better. George |
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I have a separate room over our garage used as a multi-purpose room, but one of the main purposes is for my studio. It's also my office, where I run my consulting business, my workout space, and a home theater space when I can talk my wife into coming up -- you know, to show her my etchings. She always smiles at that same old line. That upper room is separate from the house with its own heat, and because we live in such a cool climate, no AC. Of course, I can open windows as needed. We live out in the country at the end of a dead-end road, so it's generally pretty quiet here. - Glenn
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