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Radial Pro48 and Baggs LB6
As the title says, is this a good combo? Will the Pro48, being active, be impedance friendly and also give me enough signal to act like a preamp (say like a Radial PZ Pre?). Could I simply plug the guitar with the LB6 into the Pro48, and run an XLR from the Pro 48 to the (phantom powered) XLR in on my guitar amp and get a good sound? Or am I oversimplifying this?
Thanks!
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The LB6 is passive. Ok, that is helpful, thank you!
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If you need gain, you need a preamp.
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Thanks, I was thinking about this the wrong way. I've actually tried (and sold) the Radial PZ Pre and the Red Eye. I liked them both very much, but like many of us, was just curious to what all was out there. There was no great hurry to get this particular guitar with the passive pickup (my only one) ready to gig, etc.., as I use other gear for that.
I think I am going to pickup another Red Eye and call it good.
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I thought the Red Eye, or Bright Eye was a good match with the passive LB6, based on the impedance offered. I haven't pushed the buy button yet, now you have me thinking of the Para for sure.
I had one once, but was using it with active pickups and couldn't hear much difference. I assume the Para was built with the LB6 in mind as a match... Thanks for this perspective... P.S. this is for a nylon string guitar...and for finger style usage...
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Also, I find Nylon strings always seem to take well to USTs and the LB6 especially.
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It helps to check out actual product specs before offering an OPINION. There are no gain specs mentioned: https://www.radialeng.com/product/pro48/specifications The ONLY thing you know about an active DI is that it requires power. In the case of Radial Pro48, it is NOT done to add gain. It is done to increase headroom. Once a DI adds gain, it ceases to be a conventional DI (that interfaces an instrument level signal with a microphone level input) and becomes more of a preamp.
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Ok, Gordon. Geez. I watched a video about the active and passive DIs that Radial makes and I coulda sworn they said that active DIs amplify the signal but I am apparently mistaken. Regardless, I wouldn’t run a LB6 into a PRO48 alone.
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Sorry to open a can of worms guys, but I do find all this information very helpful. So thanks to everyone. I'm going to look hard at the PADI now.
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My usual glacial approach. Still haven't moved on this preamp for an LB6 with nylon. Was hoping to spend in the 100.00 range (used is fine). Thanks for any other input!
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Radial Pro48 Features: High-resolution Compact Active Direct Box with 48v Phantom power. Increased dynamic range and headroom. Compact, rugged book-end design with 14-gauge steel welded I-beam construction. Ideal for low-output, passive guitars and basses. -15dB Pad accommodates high-output sources. Pro48 Specifications Specifications Block Diagram Graphs Specifications Audio circuit type: Proprietary analog circuit with low-noise op-amp Frequency response: 20Hz ~ 20kHz (± 1.5 dB Dynamic range: 99dB Total harmonic distortion: 0.001% @ 0 dBu Intermodulation Distortion: 0.002% @ 0 dBu Phase Deviation: +28º at 20Hz | +1º at 1kHz | -2º at 20kHz Input Impedance: 220kΩ - ¼" input Output Impedance: 600Ω - XLR output Equivalent Input Noise: -86dBu Noise: -82dB below 0dBu Maximum Input: +9dBu If you're running to a mic input, I suspect you'd get plenty of signal (from the PRO48/LB6 combo) to work with at the mixer. Its supposedly "ideal" for low output passive sources, with the -15db pad included to accommodate hot active sources. I can't imagine, however, the the PRO48's 220Kohm input impedance would get a very full tone from the LB6. Why experiment when we know that the PADI is designed with the LB6 in mind? |
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Thanks, agreed, the PADI is a perfect match, and they are out there used close to my budget range. I may go this way. I am looking for an old school sound... as it is.
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