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I guess I am not that savy about all this. Heck, I thought bypassing the pres meant not going through its A/D. I just want to know what interface would work for me using outboard pres and outboard AD/DA converter. Is there such a device?
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The unit I used to use is an RME HDSP, which included both digital and analog inputs. So no preamps, at least, but still had A/D onboard. I just skipped that and ran my external A/D converter at the time (Cranesong HEDD) into the digital inputs, letting the RME A/D go to waste. So I had what (I think) you're describing: My preamp's (Great River) analog out to my A/D (Cransong HEDD) to the digital inputs of the RME card.
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Earlier in this thread I suggested the MOTU 8D. It has 4 channels each of AES inputs, AES outputs, SPDIF inputs, and SPDIF outputs. No preamps or converters (other than what’s used in the headphone amp) and it has a very nice router/mixer. It’s not Thunderbolt but should be compatible with the OPs Mac.
This seems to me what the OP has asked for, unless he also needs to have analog outputs for his monitors.
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The mixer is great for zero latency monitoring while you are recording. I use a headphone mix which includes my guitar mics as well as tracks from the daw (click or previously recorded tracks). For this mix I have it EQd by the Motu Box. I set up a different mix for my monitor outputs. I can also use the Motu headphone mix and monitor output mix to listen to anything from the computer without the daw. I use the daw mixer for individual recorded tracks. The Motu 8D is $600. A less expensive option is the Focusrite Scarlett 8i6. It has SPDIF input and output that could connect to the OPs UA2192. It has a mixer that will support zero latency monitoring. It has 2 mic preamps and converters but they could be ignored / not used.
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Ah, sorry, I missed that. In that case, it seems like the MOTU 8D should do exactly what you want. I'm glad to see something like this exists, I may want to do this type of setup myself at some point.
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I don't understand enough about all the connection options to know what is best.
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I don't understand enough about all the connection options to know what is best. I used to think the Profire 610 was bypassing the AD conversion. I gues I was wrong. Ignorance must have been bliss?
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If you had been connecting your UA2192 to the Profire 610 using SPDIF then you were bypassing tha 610's preamps and converters. You could do the same with the Focusrite 8i6 or the Motu 8D.
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So, whats the point of using a high end standalone converter if there aren’t many options for bypassing the ad conversion on standalone interfaces? Also, what’s the difference between using the aes ins/outs versus spdif? And third, how should I route my monitor signal without analog outs on the 8d?
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For question 3, you could use the dac in your UA2192 for your monitors (and it’s probably much better than the monitor output built into an interface). The router in the 8D will allow you to direct the monitor signal from your daw to your UA2192. Depending how comfortable you are with audio interface routers, the Focusrite 8i6 is simpler to setup (but less featured but that might not matter for how you intend to use it).
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All you need is an interface that accepts AES/EBU or ADAT and connects to your Mac either through USB or T-Bolt. |
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Thank-you! Yes, or even spdif, because I have AES---> SPDIF cables for my UA2192 converter
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