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Vince Gill - D-TAR Pickup System
Just out of curiosity, I have read that Vince Gill uses the D-TAR pickup system in his 0000 Martins. https://www.premierguitar.com/articl...s_Touring_Gear
Anybody know if he is using the D-TAR Multi-Source Pickup-Mic System or the D-TAR Wave-Length Pickup System? THANKS IN ADVANCE
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2007 Taylor DN5 2017 Blueridge BR-341 Last edited by olkev; 09-15-2019 at 05:28 PM. |
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It looks it's a condenser mic. Similar to the Baggs Lyric? Any major feedback issues? Thanks, Scott Memmer |
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Wave-Length Multi-source system - steel
Wavelength Solo https://www.premierguitar.com/articl...Slinger?page=4 I don't have one myself but, I have read that they are less susceptible to feedback.
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2007 Taylor DN5 2017 Blueridge BR-341 Last edited by olkev; 09-15-2019 at 08:02 PM. |
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Last I heard, Laurence Juber was still using the Wavelength and it has been included in some of his Martin Signature models. LJ adds a different internal mic (an Audix I believe). I have some sound samples on my pickup page of the Wavelength alone, and with a DPA 4061 mic (so sort of an upgraded version of the multi-source) Check out Laurence demoing and talking about his Wavelength setup here: https://pegheadnation.com/instrument...-and-omc-21lj/
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I saw Vince play tonight. His acoustics sounded pretty good. If I had to guess, he's only using the UST. I have Rick Turner Renaissance guitars that use the D-tar UST system and they sound great. Vince's Martins sounded similar.
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I bought a used Martin 000-28EC once that had a D-TAR Multi-source pickup system and it was the best sounding aftermarket system I've ever used. I didn't find it was prone to feedback perse unless you accidently turned your guitar towards the amp! The mic blend was very sensitive and if you dialed it up too much it screamed like a banshee but if you dialed it right (low) and kept your guitar facing in the right direction it was fine.
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and it gets even better with the multi source.....the preamp can switch to stereo...then stereo cord to something like soltice and the regular V/T dials now switch to volumes for UST and the mic (with phantom)...awesome system...
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We had a monster thread about using the wavelength preamp - which is a nice, high headroom preamp - with custom options quite a while back: https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=222529 it appears that with the newest revision, they're at least not going to document how you'd do this.
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Thanks, As Always, Scott |
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Hi,
I had DTAR Multisource in the past (with good overall performance, mic nicely rounding piezo UST sound). Lately I bought SD Wavelength Solo for another guitar and I can confirm, that it is possible to use 2nd source by following instructions from "old" manual. By the way - I think I saw here on AGF schematic diagram of tone/volume controls for DTAR Wavelength pickup - does anyone know how to find it? Regards, Marek
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To my way of thinking, one of the Wavelength system's distinguishing characteristics is that it seems to have a "zippier" response than most other UST systems. It responds more dynamically when the player transitions from a light string attack to a more forceful attack.
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I had the original Wavelength added to a Koa T5 custom. It did sound pretty amazing and was an improvement over the 9V systems. You had to set the endpin preamp properly which was a little inconvenient but did give you some flexibility depending on the guitar.
D-TAR stands for Duncan, as in Seymore Duncam and Rick Turner Acoustic Research. davidc |
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Thanks Again, Scott Memmer |
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With regards to Rick Turner, I really miss the days when luthiers like Rick Turner, David Enke and Dave Wendler were heavily involved in the guitar forum discussions. They all had a great deal of expertise in the area of guitar amplification.
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Yes on LJ and the Wavelength and Audix, though the placement of the mic is in quite a different place than before. His tech put it in the wrong spot and he ended up liking it better.
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