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Old 01-25-2014, 04:36 AM
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Default "Bang" when plugging in/removing 1/4 inch cable from guitar

Why does this happen? I have to go to the PA/amp and turn the volume down, and then remove the 1/4 inch cable from the guitar to turn the expression system off (314ce).

I don't want to waste the battery on the expression system as there is no way to turn it off other than removing the cable.

I want to be able to plug the guitar in only when I need it.

Can this be fixed?
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Old 01-25-2014, 04:58 AM
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Solution:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acces...angle-straight
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Old 01-25-2014, 05:35 AM
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If you have to get off stage quickly, this is a problem. You can play an amazing set, but if you pop the cable at the end, that's all anyone will remember. I've used a tuner pedal before. When I need to unplug, I just step on the pedal and remove the cable.
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Old 01-25-2014, 05:41 AM
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I did that once while setting up to play through a festival system. The sound guys were just a tad more than mildly annoyed.
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:04 AM
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I believe it's something to do with guitar cables having a live (tip) and earth (shaft) connection and as you plug in it isn't earthed until both connections are made, something like that anyway.

The ways suggested so far are the best, the other option is to leave the cable connected to the guitar and pull it from the amp/pa instead if that is practical.
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:08 AM
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Keep eye-contact and clear signals with the sound man and all should go well... If you want to be more independent then a volume pedal/tuner or lead with a mute function will do the trick.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:12 AM
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Default Circuit breaker cable, maybe?

Eye contact just wasn't getting for me after months of practice with the sound guys at church. Took a couple weeks with the local music store guy before he finally mentioned a circuit breaker cable: http://www.planetwaves.com/pwProduct...ircuit_Breaker Fixed the problem right off, high quality construction, good sound - only issue I've had is that the cable's especially rigid, so it gets kinky if you're moving around on stage too much.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:50 AM
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I use a Taylor V-cable. Similar to the ones linked above, only instead of just an on/off, it also has a volume control. I originally bought it to have volume control for a GSmini with the ES-Go (passive) pickup, and found it was such a good solution to plugging/unplugging that I use it with all my guitars.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/VCable250-10/
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Old 01-25-2014, 10:01 AM
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Asides from one sound guy at my church I have never had a problem as they all keep an eye on the platform to see if we need something. We have a couple of guitar players and one sound guy who we have been unable to educate as to why you mute a channel before unplugging.
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Old 01-25-2014, 10:35 AM
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Eye contact just wasn't getting for me after months of practice with the sound guys at church. Took a couple weeks with the local music store guy before he finally mentioned a circuit breaker cable: http://www.planetwaves.com/pwProduct...ircuit_Breaker Fixed the problem right off, high quality construction, good sound - only issue I've had is that the cable's especially rigid, so it gets kinky if you're moving around on stage too much.
I use these for all my guitars and they're awesome.

Great for changing instruments on stage too.

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Old 01-25-2014, 11:46 AM
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I just use a pedal tuner. I've had the Boss TU-2 and now a Korg Pitchblack. Tap the footswitch and unplug the guitar. No pops.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:56 AM
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I use a Lava cable with a Neutrik silent plug.
Works like a charm.
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Old 01-28-2014, 03:10 PM
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I've noticed this with a PA head some freinds use at an open mic. Even when you hit the mute switch there is noise when unplugging (and unplugging from the amp first doesn't solve it. Solution is to turn the input gain/channel volume down, not just mute it.
If this is your permanent setup and you're using a TS cable, the tuner pedal is the simplest solution. If you're using a TRS-XLR cable, keep looking!
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