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Interesting EQ technique (Reaper example)
Track splitting.
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Interesting, tho it sure seems like a lot of work. A multi-band compressor and/or EQ could do pretty much the same thing, but I guess it just depends on what you would find easiest. Does reaper have busses? If so, another option would be to send each of these bands to separate busses instead of messing with copies of tracks. You could just keep your main track, and end up with low-mid-high busses that act like what he's doing here, and you'd still be able to to things to the main track that affect everything, if you wanted.
It's interesting how much compression he adds, you really hear the bass notes pumping. Perhaps this is headed for inclusion in a mix with more instruments?
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I often put other effects ahead of the reverb on the reverb bus, EQ, compression, perhaps a de-clicker or de-squeaker that would sound bad on the raw track, but that you'll not notice on the reverb. It can help a bit to keep noises from being accentuated by the reverb.
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I think you're right that that might be a better workflow. It would also allow you to make global changes to the original guitar track (comping or moving parts, for example) without having to re-do any duplicating. |
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You can get an excellent sound without doing virtually any of this. Cardinal rule IMO is get a good initial recording (performance, room, gear, setup).
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Nothing takes the place of practice and preparation, but it is neat to tinker around with DAWs and such.
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Yes it was for a time. Now I have zeroed in to what I find useful. However I am simply working with solo guitar and can easily re-record something that turns out unworkable.
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The analogy that comes to mind is manipulating a black & white photograph. You can choose different film and exposures (guitar, strings, mic, room, and playing style), and then your choice of negative development (mixing plug-ins) affects its contrasts. Finally, you can control the overall balance of brightness and contrast when you expose and develop the print (mastering).
Of course, with experience, you can previsualize the final print to inform how you choose and expose the film in the first place. This might lighten the downstream processing steps.
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Kenny Gioia ...haven't come across that name in a lot of years, close to a decade I'd guess. I think he used to post in one of the early Facebook audio groups ...can't recall which one though (at least I think that's where I remember him from, could have been some audio forum too though). I remember he got thrown out of the group several times for instigating arguments. I never got into it with him because the stuff that got him heated was never anything I was all that interested in discussing. He certainly was knowledgeable and he had a small group of loyal fans in the group but he really had a gift for attracting heat. This video was the first time I'd ever seen his face or heard his voice.
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Kenny has done a vast series of YouTube videos demonstrating features and techniques. As I recall he started his series with both REAPER and ProTools but all I've ever watched were REAPER oriented. His collection is now so vast that it can be difficult to find the desired technique. And his focus is definitely on multi-track pop, so many of his tutorials don't match my interests. Can be an amusing way to click away an afternoon, though.
https://www.youtube.com/@REAPERMania or http://reaper.fm/videos.php I think my favorite clip is his "Top 5 FX Plugins You Need To Buy" http://reaper.fm/videos.php#ATRuiH87sjw Fran
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I haven't had a chance to look through his videos but I will. His cadence is something I'll have to get used to though. It kept distracting me from what he was saying.
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Man - this is why I hate YouTube. He obviously doesn't know what he's doing...but he's selling it like he does & then people start to think this is a good idea.
He's basically saying "let's make a left turn...by making 3 rights". He's rolling his own crossovers to make a multiband compressor, but adding tons of complexity. Just use a multiband compressor, if this is what you want to do. Sorry to be so blunt, but simply don't. This is asinine.
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But first it would be useful to know why and when we would want to use it and what results we can aim for. For example, with a big, full sounding acoustic part, what are the possibilities with selective compression? I’m guessing that Paul McCartney has done this to make his acoustic parts pop, like in Every Night. I’ve always thought that main part sounded a little to rich to be true. I’d love to work through a tutorial on how to achieve that sound.
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