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Never Going Back Again - Difficult Reach
So I'm strictly a fingerstyle player and have been a big Buckingham fan for decades. I can play a lot of his trickier tunes, but Never Going Back Again has revealed a limitation of mine. Despite having fairly large hands there is one bit that I just can't do. My hands have taken a beating over the decades and seem to have stiffened up and my fingers almost seem to want to curve inward, hard to describe.
There is another way to play this song that makes it easier (Capo 6, drop C vs Capo 4 Drop D), and I may go that route, but I can play the rest of it just fine with the capo on the 4th fret so I'm feeling stubborn. I can fuel my GAS by shopping for a short scale guitar, so that is good news! (current main guitar is a 25.4" scale Martin OM). Here is the tricky bit: Code:
--2--------2--------2-------|-----2--------2--------2----| -----0--------5--------5----|--------5--------5----------| --------2--------2----------|--2--------2--------2-------| --------5-----------5-------|--------5-----------5-------| --0-----------0-------------|--0-----------0-------------| ----------------------------|----------------------------| Steve W |
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This is bars 5-6, right? Yeah, it's a bit of a stretch. I play it with my index barred across the first four strings at fret 2 (same position as it is in for the first 4 bars, so no need to move), ring finger fret 5 fourth string and pinky fret 5 second string. I can't think of an easier fingering.
I think the key, though, is hand & arm position. As I get to that phrase, my wrist moves away from the neck a bit and my hand rotates up a bit, and at the same time my elbow moves in towards my body and forward a bit. That gets my fingers at the proper angle to fret things cleanly. And, btw, the whole song is easier imo if you hold your guitar so you are closer to the headstock end--if you are already reaching out a ways to get to the frets, it's going to be much harder to get your wrist & arm in position for that passage. |
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--2--------2--------2-------|-----2--------2--------2----| -----5--------5--------5----|--------5--------5----------| ----------------------------|-----------2----------------| --------5-----------5-------|--------5-----------5-------| --0-----------0-------------|--0-----------0-------------| ----------------------------|----------------------------|
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That in turn makes sense when you have the barre in place for the D chord either side. It makes the switch relatively straightforward. Great shots of his left hand here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27QaDxG36DM
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Thanks for the responses! I think I have to experiment with the way I'm positioning my hand, elbow, etc. as Chipotle mentioned. I just can't seem to handle the 2-5 reach as shown in the video that JonPR linked to.
Thanks for the tab correction too. I do have tabs that show it correctly, from an old magazine. That was just a copy and paste from one I had on the computer. What do you all think of the variation shown in this video, around 3:30? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wvCrzzLMCQ&t=274s Thanks. Steve W |
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Not to ruffle any feathers but there is a 'cheaters' way of playing it, tuning the guitar C-G-D-G-B-E and putting the capo on 6.
Similar to this.
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Thanks. Steve W |
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It is pretty much note-for-note as the capo on 4 version. The right hand is tricky too so there are plenty of hurdles on this tune.
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All the notes you need are in that shape, the strings are just in a different order, so you need to re-allocate your RH fingers. For me, that's too much retraining (this dog is too old for that new trick...), but it's definitely worth a try. BTW, your link needs a different time stamp: https://youtu.be/4wvCrzzLMCQ?t=209
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He goes on to say: " I just drop the low E down to a D and play out of a 2nd position D chord shape. You have to stretch your left hand a little to play the A13 voicing" (which is the troubling bit you are referring to, so even Lindsey admits it's one of the challenging spots. There is a video of him playing it in drop D, capoed on the 3rd fret, but I think it's more to accommodate his voice.) Not to say that you can't use another tuning capoed on the 6th if you end up liking that better. Seems to work too! Here's an excellent teaching video of the tune:
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Of course now I'm shopping around for my first short scale acoustic... Steve W |
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Anybody have tabs to the instrumental break? I've tried over and over to follow this video, but can't seem to get the transition back to the main piece even close to correct.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwEVuQxPJ7U&t=25s |
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EDIT: OK here you go: Second time through, the first two bars are this: - otherwise it's the same
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