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I don't understand the question? The nut height is all about the nut & 1st fret.
I dislike the word "shave" as applied here. You sand a saddle, you file nut slots. You shave your facel |
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My back-of-the-envelop calculations suggest yes.
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Thank you, sir! I know I know … less quantitative more qualitative. But the math nerd in me just needed to know. So I’ve run out of guitars to set up (and re-setup) so I’ll be bugging some friends to see if they are brave enough. Or maybe my dad’s. If I can’t find anything, I’ll go to my ukes.
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I have absolutely nothing against quantitative approaches. I simply encourage people to be aware of both approaches and apply whatever works best for each person in each situation. One size doesn't fit all or every situation.
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Do you guys think this Boss TU-12EX would be precise enough for intonation work or would a strobe tuner really be best suited?
It claims to be accurate +/-1 ct which is up there with the Peterson strobe tuners. But I'm wondering if the visual of the true (as opposed to digital) strobe is what really aids in the precision tuning? (As opposed to eyeballing the needle on the Boss.)
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I purchased a Peterson digital strobe, about $250, that I'm only so-so with. I'd suggest either a needle type, like the Boss, or true strobe ($600 or so) and avoid the middle ground, at least for acoustic work. |
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As always, thanks for your concise input Charles.
Ultimately, I’d like to up my setup skills and start doing intonation repairs as well. Even on my Samson chromatic tuner, I’m seeing intonation off at the 12th by just shy of 10 cents on 2 of the strings which as you pointed out would be noticeable to a trained ear. $600 wouldn’t really make sense for my hobbyist application. $250 I might be able to pull off. I have been eyeing the Turbo Tuner which seems both affordable and effective. They just finished production on the ST-122A which has a built-in mic for acoustics. (The price is actually $170 now and not the $130 listed on the site for the older ST-122.) Alternatively, I was thinking of just going with the ST-200 stompbox version which is just as accurate but I would need to get a mic or adapter like this one which is no biggy. Watching some videos on how these strobes work, I can definitely see the advantage to them over conventional tuners.
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I think I'm down to two choices for precision tuners:
Peterson StroboClip or Turbo Tuner ST-122a That's actually the older model ST-122 linked. The new's one out though for $170. The Peterson clip-on is $70. Any recommendations between the two?
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Decided to throw caution to the wind and pick up the new ST-122a. Estimated shipping times are all over the place lol. I guess they are still very back ordered or something. I’m hoping to get it next week.
I’m beginning to see that “setup” can really be looked at in terms of playability (dictated by action) and sound (dictated by intonation). Both are interrelated physically but the bulk of my learning (and I believe the easier of the two) has focused on playability. Let’s see how far I can get on the sound part. I’m aiming to limit any intonation adjustments to the saddle and nut … maybe correcting any issues I cause trying to address playability. Bridge plate removal, saddle slot refitting and the sort are just out of my league and likely best left to real professionals.
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Intonation requires more academic understanding, but isn't particularly complicated in its implementation. You also have to accept that "perfect" just isn't a possibility. The academic understanding makes that clear. |
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I think I just had a Luke Skywalker jedi padawan moment.
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Also, the ST122a shipped yesterday!! Took a little bit of hemming, hawing, and AFG name dropping but whatever it shipped yesterday!! Can’t wait to see how this thing works.
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I have the floor model Turbo Tuner on my pedal board, and I use it to intonate. It's very accurate for sure
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