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I wish everyone would keep their opinions to themselves.
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In the perspective of everything else, of course I can tell you what notes I'm playing -- but I see no point in writing it in a way that is incomplete and inefficient for my needs. Standard + tab provide the best combo IMHO. Being able to read standard notation is an important skill -- a very important one. But forcing someone to become really proficient at it on the guitar is silly when there's other tools that provide so much clarity -- and potentially the opportunity to learn much faster. |
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I find even in the simpler stuff, there are loads of quirks that can be picked up from players only through careful listening and working things out. A tab can be a good guide sometimes, but the listening bit is ten times more vital. Sometimes perhaps starting out with the tab for a skeleton guide and then putting it away can work out pretty good. |
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I agree 100%.
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My personal opinion and choice in teaching is song based and note-for-note-rote as a first step. I find note-for-note-rote without paper a good first step. And it's based in tradition. Gypsy Jazz as a European tradition had no written music (TAB or Scores). There was often a 4th player in a Gypsy Jazz trio who was the apprentice guitarist sitting in and learning from the established player. So when I teach the process used with my students for the past 35 years is:
I find this encourages better learning, more musical playing, less regret over a single note or two out of place, learning to play well with others, and students learn to stylize pieces and do simple arranging on their own. |
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lol.... what? is anaybody here plays from standard notation? or people just have an idea what standard notation is? |
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I'm assuming you are not demeaning the players here. There are many of us who can (and some who do) use standard notation. We most certainly can read, and if you drop in on any of the theory discussions you'll see there is a solid understanding of music, reading, playing, sight reading, and theory. I can read from notation. I don't. The things I want to play are not notated, and for the most part no TAB either. My greatest need for notation is spontaneously cranking out a short part for a keyboardist or sax player in a rehearsal. And at this point in my 48 year musical journey, it's quicker to skip all that and just figure things out using one's ears and hands. |
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and yes, the majority of it is completely notated as to how to play the pieces.
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#69
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thank you!
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I agree with what you say when it's about a style I'm already familiar with. When it's a totally new style, I feel like I need to know the "master's" fingering -- or at least become acquainted with it. But then again I speak as someone who has spent many years practicing. When I first started, trust me, I NEEDED those tabs!!! LOL |
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I kindly suggest you take this comment back.
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it wasn addresed to you my friend
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It does not tell you exactly and systematically where to put your fingers like tablature does. That was my point. |
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Paikon, I am assuming you know this already - but the standard notation can be of varying quality as well. GOOD qulaity std (prepared specifically for guitar) has fingerings as well. Unfortunately the notation one gets from tab coversion software is of poor quality... I can read, I can play note by note, or I can play more "free form". It all depends... |
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edit if the composer/arranger wants you to know where to put your fingers he will tell you through standard notation |