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Dream Guitars had one and still shows the specs. They measured this: Depth at the neck block: 3.375"/depth at the tail block: 4.375". So a little more than OM depth at the tail block (by Dream Guitars measurements) but less than what I'd consider a more standard dread depth of 4.75" to 5.0". Hope that helps... https://www.dreamguitars.com/shop/sa...ort-scale.html
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My Bourgeois Slope D Banjo Killer that I used to own.
My current Bourgeois AT Vintage D Banjo Killer. Easy to see the difference in the body styles.
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So which one kills banjos better?
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The AT Vintage D, by a LONG SHOT! There’s no comparison between the two.
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J-45 vs Hummingbird will help you see the difference.
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My understanding is that the original dreadnoughts had rounded—or sloped—shoulders and 12-fret bodies until 1934, when Martin squared them off and went to 14-fret bodies. Today, the shape that people visualize when one says “dreadnought” is the classic, square-shouldered Martin shape. I feel sorry for Gibson when people refer to Gibson’s larger models as slope-shouldered dreadnoughts, and I’m sure Gibson isn’t a fan of the practice, either. It would be like people calling a Lincoln Continental Ford’s variation of a Cadillac. I bet Gibson wished everyone referred to dreadnoughts as Euro-shouldered, fat-waisted Jumbos.
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As the oldest son on a family farm I am surprised at the answers here. Guitars? I can tell you that in the Spring I am a solid 6' 2". By the end of Summer I am 6'. Come end of Fall, 5' 11" and 5' 10" by end of Winter. Now THAT'S slope shoulder
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As Dave Mustane once wrote - "people have round shoulders from carrying heavy loads."
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Martin made a large body design for Ditson until 1929 when the company failed. In 1931, Martin added it, in a modest way, into their product line in 1931 - they called it the "dreadnought". It was a 12 fret slotted headstock guitar, simply larger than the 000 which had been their largest model since 1902. Gibson, possibly, copied or took influence from the shape of the dreadnought, for their "Jumbo" which came out in '34 but they made it with 14 frets over a short, Gibson scale. The same year, ('34) Martin did the same trick on the dreadnought that they'd done to their 000 when they squished down the body and fitted a 14 fret skinny neck and called it the "OM". (which they discontinued in '33, replacing it with a similarly squished down Dreadnought (also initially called an OM) by reducing the body length and making the neck thinner. So, Martin made a model called a Dreadnought, and Gibson made a model called a Jumbo. Surely referring to a Gibson jumbo as a dreadnought is a bit like referring to a General Motors sports car as a "Mustang"?
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Thanks Andy...I'm aware of the nomenclature but I was trying to not muddy the water as the OP referee to a "slope shoulder dread".
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Dana calls his model a Slope shoulder dreadnought, so I’ll go with his nomenclature.
https://bourgeoisguitars.com/product/slope-d/
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If this term mush be used - it could only, logically be to describe the Original Martin dreadnought design, and the Gibson Jumbo is no more a dreadnought, than a Honda CRV is a Toyota. Yes, I know that "slope dread" is often misused by builders themselves, and that many confuse the Jumbo with the super jumbo, and there are those that think that any guitar smaller than a dread or Jumbo is a parlour. I even made a video about this ..wow - four years ago. I guess everyone thinks I'm crazy, especially those who simply don't understand the rather important evolution of the steel string acoustic guitar.
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