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Old 10-15-2021, 06:22 AM
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And not just on screen. As a lieutenant in the 2nd Canadian Infantry, James Montgomery Doohan went ashore on D-day at Juno Beach in Normandy. That night as he crossed between command posts, he was shot six times by a twitchy Bren gunner, four in the leg and one each in the chest, and right hand. The chest round was stopped by a silver cigarette case. He was evacuated to England and his right middle finger was amputated. What did he do? He trained to fly an Army artillery spotting aircraft, a Taylorcraft Auster, was attached to the Royal Canadian Air Force, and ran right back into the war spotting for artillery across the battle line in enemy territory. But the actor was Canadian.

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Why does "space flight" have to require circumnavigation?
Some people take the view that true space flight is putting something into orbit. Orbital velocity is 17,500 mph for low earth orbit, which requires energy on a different order of magnitude to Blue Origin.


I think it could be argued that "true" space flight involves going up and being able to stay there

The V2 rockets of WW2 could actually reach a higher altitude than Blue Origin.
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:17 AM
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I understand the different requirements between getting into space and orbiting. It just seems like a very limiting requirement to set and one that seems essentially arbitrary.
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I understand the different requirements between getting into space and orbiting. It just seems like a very limiting requirement to set and one that seems essentially arbitrary.
I would say that defining space by the Karman Line(100 km) is more arbitrary. It doesn't coincide with established definitions of atmospheric layers and is essentially a regulatory mechanism.

I'm not trying to be pedantic and personally I'm quite happy to accept that Captain Kirk has been to space. It's just that I do think the "orbital" requirement is a better definition of space flight.

From a practical point of view staying up is the requirement to do anything useful in space.

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Old 10-15-2021, 11:49 AM
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Glad he didn't see any gremlins out the window during his flight.
You’re pretty cool, dude.

(Not my epoch, but I’ve seen that episode. )
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Old 10-15-2021, 01:42 PM
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Given that they’re only going up for a few minutes, what makes these Blue Origin flights different from the “vomit comet” rides in a standard aircraft that were used to train NASA astronauts to get them accustomed to weightlessness? That same aircraft was used extensively for filming both “Apollo 13” and “Gravity,” during the scenes where they’re out of their seats and floating around the cabin.

The flight time doesn’t appear to be any different on this Jeff Bezos production: is it different at all?

Just curious.


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The biggest difference would be the distance above the earth. 106 km up (66 miles) for the Bezos Ship. Gravity flights are around 30,000 feet (5.5 miles). The view would be amazing from the Bezos Ship... I'm hoping they had a nice window to look out. 10 minutes is a short ride though.
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Old 10-15-2021, 05:07 PM
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10 minutes is a short ride though.
How many $$$/sec. does it cost the rider?
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:29 PM
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The biggest difference would be the distance above the earth. 106 km up (66 miles) for the Bezos Ship. Gravity flights are around 30,000 feet (5.5 miles). The view would be amazing from the Bezos Ship... I'm hoping they had a nice window to look out. 10 minutes is a short ride though.
Thanks. This is the question I was hoping would get answered, and you just did.


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Old 10-15-2021, 09:11 PM
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Why does "space flight" have to require circumnavigation?
To me, up and down does not constitute "flight". I can throw a rock in the air but that goes not constitute air travel.
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Old 10-16-2021, 05:03 AM
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Thanks. This is the question I was hoping would get answered, and you just did.


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Not sure what the flight costs 10 minutes isn't very long, probably spent almost all up and then down. A complete orbit would be fantastic. It takes the International Space Station 90 minutes for an orbit but that's 400km / 250 m up.
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Old 10-16-2021, 05:45 AM
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As I understand it, the flight costs $250,000 and lasts approximately ten minutes. That would be $416.67 per second.

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Old 10-16-2021, 06:21 AM
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A weightless Shatner. Must be a magnificent view

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This does NOT look like a 90 year old guy!
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