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Old 06-13-2019, 08:00 AM
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Thanks for the post. I appreciate it, as I'm having intonation problems with my brand new X20 custom order. Specifically, the strings intonate sharp, with the low E and the A strings being noticeably off to the ear, especially when fretted across the first five frets. I have to flatten them both to varying degrees to get them to sound and measure relatively in tune when fretted and still sound passable against the open string octaves. In fact almost all the strings are sharp down there. At the 12th it's a mixed bag, with the A string being the most glaring and audible example of sharpness.

Anyway, I contacted support and sent them some pics of the bridge, which they requested. Very courteous and attentive to my e-mails, etc. They sent me a new replacement nut and a couple of saddles. I brought these to a very well-respected shop close by who carry Rainsong and other CF brands and they sanded the saddle back as far as they could and still maintain its integrity, and it really didn't make much of a difference to the intonation. They also checked the nut slots, etc and said everything was AOK as far as the cut of the height and width of the slots go, and, so, they didn't do anything with the nut. They seemed a bit shy to do too much, though, since they aren't familiar with the Emerald brand. But something's wrong, and I'm hoping it's not a drastic fix, but, it wouldn't surprise me if this will have to go back to Emerald to straighten it out. That, however, will have to wait until I get back from the tropics in a couple months (the whole reason I got a carbon fiber guitar to begin with).

Also, this guitar has an Anthem system installed, which I requested, since I've liked it on my Martin dread. To my ear, the strings don't sound balanced, with the B string being quite a bit lower in the mix. The guitar, acoustically, however, sounds very balanced. I've tried to EQ it into submission with so-so results.

As far as the end pins go, the wrapped part at the ball-end of my strings was actually resting on top of the saddle on a few strings, so I've used some extra ball ends as spacers to correct that, which they have. It makes me wonder, though, based on Guitar Luva's comments, whether there's some kind of construction problem there too.

I really like the aesthetic and the tone and playability of the guitar, but the intonation problem bothers me quite a bit, especially for the amount of $$$$ I laid down to get this guitar, which, for me, is more than I've ever spent on a guitar in my life. And, lest anyone think I'm being too picky, I have a 2015 Taylor 320e (cost me $1320 on sale) which displays none of these intonation problems. Sure, like ANY guitar, the intonation, when measured with a tuner, isn't absolutely dead-on everywhere, but the Taylor sounds great and in-tune all the way up and down the neck. In other words, I know the problems I'm experiencing on my Emerald are not just the result of me being overly anal :>).

Like I said, due to current circumstances, I won't be able to do much about it until I get back to the States, at which point I will contact customer support once again and see what we can do. The folks I've dealt with at Emerald have been very good about response and helping seek a solution so far, and I'm confident they'll get the situation resolved satisfactorily. It would help greatly if they could partner with some shop(s) in the US, so the customer could try them out and/or at least have an authorized repair center here. I can't do this kind of work on a guitar myself, but I'm wondering if a zero glide nut would fix my problems, especially down low on the neck. Any opinions/ideas?
First of all welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing your information. I really don't know what to say as it pains me to see people having issues with guitars, especially Emerald to which I have the most utmost respect for. Just gotta wonder how many people are having issues that don't get reported. I just want to reiterate that all of the issues I found with my X20 were pretty well hidden and I basically discovered them one after another (which caused my frustration to grow exponentially). Even though I was well past the return point I still should've contacted support to return the guitar for another one. Their customer service is among the best out there but who wants to send back a brand new guitar half ways across the world when it shouldn't leave the factory in those conditions.

Luckily I was able to work out all the issues myself, even though that was quite time consuming, but the fact remains these type of issues shouldn't exist on any guitar, let alone at this price point. It's pretty obvious they need to get better. I don't know for sure how their assembly line works. To me, my guitar's construction was flawless (luckily) as that's the most trickiest part with a carbon guitar but the little things like nuts, saddles I don't know if they have one guy dedicated to that stuff but whatever way it works they need to get better.

As for you, hard to say, a zero glide nut is supposed to help with intonation up to the 5th fret. However, a properly set up nut should have no issues either. Sounds like for your Anthem system that you could be looking at an uneven saddle slot as well, if your luthier sanded the saddle and made sure it's flat. It's odd that they never noticed anything with the nut though maybe like you said they were a little hesitant since Emerald is unknown to them, but a guitar is a guitar and a nut is a nut. Your pickup shouldn't have string balancing issues when it leaves the factory.

In my opinion since your early into ownership unlike me, and as painful as it will be, I would send it back to Emerald for fixing or replaced for another one. Either that or take it to another luthier, one who will really dive in and find and fix problems, and have Emerald cover the cost (which I'm sure they would).

Hope it all works out in the end for you, be sure to keep us in the loop. I would also like to end this post by saying that I'm very happy with the current condition of my X20, it's a really fun guitar to play, super comfy, tonally and visually awesome and my main go to guitar for taking outside the house.
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