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Old 12-03-2017, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SongwriterFan View Post
I was listening to a friend of mine perform a few days ago and her battery quit working on her Taylor ES1-equipped guitar. She got the sound guy to mic it (SM-58, I think) and it sounded a lot better to me than what it was sounding like just before the battery croaked.

So, I decided to order myself a Tonedexter to do some experimenting on my own guitars (and possibly hers, and other singer/songwriters I know).

This leads me to a few thoughts/questions:

1) Has anybody tried this product yet with an ES1 Taylor, and if so, how were the results? I intend to try it out. I guess we'll see.

2) If one likes the way his guitar sounds mic'd through an SM57 / SM 58 / etc (or other relatively inexpensive mic), I don't see the point in buying/renting a high-end condenser mic to use with the Tonedexter. Seems to me if you want your guitar to sound like it does mic'd through an SM57, then you should use the SM57 with the Tondexter.

3) Lots of people play with feedback-busters on their acoustics, which will muffle the actual acoustic sound. I'm assuming that one could use the Tonedexter to record/train the sound WITHOUT the feedback-buster on, but then play the guitar through the Tonedexter WITH the feedback-buster on and still get a very good results.

4) Similarly, I wonder if one cold record/train with the Tone Dexter using (insert favorite brand of strings here and age of strings), but then play back later with some other set of strings and get most of the sound associated with the (insert favorite brand here) ? Think "I love the sound of Martin Titanium strings" but I don't like paying $40 a set for them. So, buy ONE set of the strings and train with the Tonedexter, but later play back through the ToneDexter using Martin Retros (as an example), instead. Might still get most of the benefit of the higher-dollar strings (tone-wise) without having to continually buy high-dollar sets? Or maybe be able to play OLD strings a lot longer through the Tondexter and still get "new string" sound?
Early on we tried an ES-1 with magnetic sensors. It did not play well with ToneDexter; it had trouble training which is expected for magnetic pickups.

If you like what an SM57 does to your guitar, ToneDexter will deliver most of that sound with its WaveMap. So there would be no need to buy a different mic.

Train TD without the sound hole cover, and then for playback use it if you need to. It has very little affect on the final sound through TD in our experience.

Perhaps counter-intuitively, ToneDexter training is virtually independent of the kind of strings you use. In other words, you'll create the same WaveMap with all kinds of strings and tunings, etc. It also doesn't care whether you finger pick or flat pick during the training. This makes it very nice, as you can shape the playback experience however you want (strings, picking) and will sound like you expect it to.
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