I don't think Ramirez is a good comparison at all. Ramirez is more akin to a small shop builder like Santa Cruz or similar. I beleive the Ramirez shop employs under 30 people. Their in house built guitars start at $12,000 +. Their lower line of factory guitars are outsourced and built by various factories. Equating them to Martin in insulting as is equating Martin to outsourced Ramirez factory guitars. Martin builds high quality mass produced guitars.
A good comparison would be someone like Alhambra.
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